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  I spoke up today

  by hoser in

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  the fire was burning within me to say something so i mustered up the courage and did it.. .

  we were for lunch after the meeting sitting at the same table as a pioneer sister, her unbaptized publisher bible study, and the bible study's teenage son.

  the pioneer was telling the unbaptised publisher about how no one from sodom and gomorrah would get a resurrection because they were killed directly by god's judgment.. this is where i had heard enough.

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  NeverKnew

  Aw, Hoser! Good for you!
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  Are we any better then the organization that has hurt so many ? I am a new member and feel the need to ask this question

  by JWainWashed in

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  this is my first post here on jehovahs witness.net.

  i joined a ltitle while ago but have been deciding if i want to become active on this site and i believe the response to my question here will determine my descision.

  i am a former jehovahs witness and have quite a story.

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  NeverKnew

  Benegaria: I thought the same thing... for a first time poster shouldn't the pronoun be "you?"

  Welcome just the same Jwainwashed.
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  "Church" Music

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please frame this for the non-jw here.... yesterday, i was in the car with a jw friend as miscellaneous tunes from my ipod were playing.

  a "church" song came on that i love.

  this song makes me think of him in that he has told me "jehovah has been with me in some of the worst times of my life" and that he "doesn't want to leave jehovah.

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  NeverKnew

  Thanks for the tips, Dazed. Fortunately, because of my questioning and with the help of the contributors on this forum, he may not be so sure he's in the one and ONLY true religion anymore.

  I come here to understand the (sometimes) unspoken.

  Are there articles that state that even the music of churches is evil?
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  "Church" Music

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please frame this for the non-jw here.... yesterday, i was in the car with a jw friend as miscellaneous tunes from my ipod were playing.

  a "church" song came on that i love.

  this song makes me think of him in that he has told me "jehovah has been with me in some of the worst times of my life" and that he "doesn't want to leave jehovah.

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  NeverKnew

  Please frame this for the non-JW here...

  Yesterday, I was in the car with a JW friend as miscellaneous tunes from my Ipod were playing. A "church" song came on that I love. This song makes me think of him in that he has told me "Jehovah has been with me in some of the worst times of my life" and that he "doesn't want to leave Jehovah." After some time on this forum, I'm able to translate this - he doesn't want to leave or get kicked out of the organization. Yeah... okay.

  Here's what I observed. We were about five blocks from his parked car I was taking him to when the song came on and I told him the song made me think of him. At block four, he removed his seatbelt. At block three, with my "put your da$%* seatbelt on" ding blinging over the music, he was staring out of the front window looking like he was trying to leverage a Jedi mind trick to levitate his vehicle closer. At block two we got a red light and I detected that he was going to make a break for it, leap out of the car and run. I assured him I'd get him to his car (he could now see) - "no need to get out" and when we pulled up to his vehicle, it looked as though he couldn't get out of my car fast enough.

  There was another time we were taking a long drive and everytime a "church" song came on, he seemed annoyed.

  For me, if he turned on one of his Kingdom Hall melodies and said it reminded him of something I said or at one time felt, I'd listen to see if I agreed.

  If you don't agree with the lyrics, isn't it still okay to appreciate the melody or beat? Heck, do you know how many lyrics I suffered through with my teenager? It was the catchy tunes that always made them tolerable. I found myself being at da club cause it was my birthday as I shook my moneymaker.

  Am I reading his reaction inaccurately?
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  Rumor of new light on the headquarters of the WT

  by wolfman85 in

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  2. beliefs

  i read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.

  has anyone heard anything about this??

  the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.

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  In trying to learn about the WT for the sake of a relationship, I've been reading about the historical evolution of these changes for over a year.

  This "new truth" trick is wearing me out.
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  Rumor of new light on the headquarters of the WT

  by wolfman85 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.

  has anyone heard anything about this??

  the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.

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  NeverKnew

  marking for later
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  Big Shake-Up Among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard that there was a recent (january 2013) big shake up on the west coast in orange california.

  i think it is a kingdom hall on taft street in orange that has a double hall.

  anyway, i heard that there were 10 to 15 disfellowshiped, others given public reproof and several congregations broken up and new conregations started as a result.

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  PDF of Elder's letter

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  with respect to the elimination or removal of "old" literature - are there any pdfs of any of these letters?.

  i read somewhere that directives have been issued over the years which contributes to the reason that older publications cannot be found in the kingdom halls.

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  NeverKnew

  Atlantis I'm gonna marry you!

  uh... well, if I break up with the JW I've fallen in love with...

  ....and you're not married and wealthy... with no heirs. *cough-cough*

  oh wait.. I hope you're a guy.

  I'm kinda old - I gotta be specific these days.
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  PDF of Elder's letter

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  with respect to the elimination or removal of "old" literature - are there any pdfs of any of these letters?.

  i read somewhere that directives have been issued over the years which contributes to the reason that older publications cannot be found in the kingdom halls.

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  NeverKnew

  With respect to the elimination or removal of "old" literature - Are there any pdfs of any of these letters?

  I read somewhere that directives have been issued over the years which contributes to the reason that older publications cannot be found in the Kingdom Halls.
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  Rosemont Cemetery-Masonic Temple-Catholic Church CONNECTED

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yes, by land transfers - connected.. .

  first - masonic hall property.

  the parcel now known as the land owned by the mason's appears to have been consolidated some time ago to form one huge parcel.

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  NeverKnew

  Also, let me make myself clear, I am not saying that there is some kind of conspiratorial web that joins them all together. These real estate parcels just hysterically links them all together.

  IMO, I think the Mason's simply bought a large parcel of land for a GREAT price to erect a hall on that happened to be owned by the Catholics with a little chunk owned by the WTS. Just trying to understand why the WTS has held on to it. What's in it for them?