PREACH you two!!!! *grin*
Matthew 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.
after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).
i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.
because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?
PREACH you two!!!! *grin*
Matthew 23:13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.
so i started working at my new job in december.
there is one person in my department who is a jw.
then there is another jw who works in my building, who just started going to my old hall about 6 months ago.
ah... emotions got me. Forgot. Be ready for the face to face rebuttal then.
after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).
i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.
because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?
We might not define it as weird. We'd probably chalk up the whole event to not quite understanding what the symbolism meant and something we'd probably know if we were a part of your faith. Kinda like if you attended a Buddhist Temple and everyone hit the floor. You may not understand what the heck you're doing or why you're doing it, but you'd figure you should follow suit out of a respect for the service.
You all are now educated in the realm of high control groups. This was completely unfamiliar to me until I started researching this cult. Before my research? ...I can't say that that possibility would have been on my radar.
Sheep to slaughter level trust and cluelessness. :(
after being put under a lot of pressure by family and ex-friends to attend the memorial this year (i didn't).
i'm thinking of attending next year and drinking the wine and eating the bread.
because i beleive the whole memorial to be a rejection of christ ceremony.. i'm prepared to receive a lot of weird death stare looks.. has anyone here ever partaken?
Transhuman68:
The challenge is that most traditional Christians have no idea HOW different the beliefs are. I mean that VERY sincerely.
To be clear, I've only been to 1 meeting as a visitor and if I hadn't known better, I could easily see a person of my kind leaving a service and still not being clear on the difference in the teachings of the WTS.
I have never been to a Memorial service. I would have gone but was too offended that they'd count me. :( I kinda wish I had gone so that I could have provided honest feedback as to what traditional Christians hear, see and perceive.
so i started working at my new job in december.
there is one person in my department who is a jw.
then there is another jw who works in my building, who just started going to my old hall about 6 months ago.
I think I would have totally called him out on that.
Me: "That's an interesting and inaccurate assessment. Where'd you get that?"
Him: "uh... "
speaker said we should not partake because when jesus arrives he will take the remnat to heaven and the memorial will be no more.
just as we will not partake then (because the memorial will not exist) it is only logical that we will not partake now.
warped logic at its finest!.
So.. is this a way to try and suppress another uptick in the partaking numbers?
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Oh and Gary, great thread on page 1... I'm just going to have to copy and paste some comments from it for presentation. It's in the private discussions so I don't think he can get to it.
BTW, your comments/suggestions are being read. Please, if there are any more pieces of advice, please post them. :)
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Okay all... as of now, he's still proceeding with this for this weekend. I'm sick. I know I have to forgive the elders for they are hoodwinked too. Knowing they'll be applying Watchtower Pharasaical law as opposed to logic and reason, is making my stomach turn.
Matthew 9:13 where Christ reminds the Pharisees of Micah 6:8 keeps running through my mind.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmyf-0fdzik i would join any church that has music such as that.
is this music common in us churches and is it mostly in black churches?
barry.
VERY common in Black churches, Barry.
It's cultural. *grin*
what was the result?
i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.
this is important.
Not a jw. I have a jws eyelid open. They are hoping an elder can answer the questions I've posed. Im trying to stop them!
About 6 different major topics!
Once i get enough responses, I will force them to this thread.