Posts by NeverKnew

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Favorite scripture in your present journey

by Separation of Powers in

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so, if you haven't become an atheist yet and still hold on to some form of christian based/bible based faith.

tell us one scripture that defines where you are at right now in your spiritual journey.... .

NeverKnew

Got into a heated debate with a dear JW friend I'm hoping will leave... I had been doing SO well in teaching in snippets. Something was said and I let loose. Yes, I used that darn "C" word (cult for those who were challenged by that) again... and again... and *ahem* again.

The last thing on my mind were Bible verses.

I went to a quiet outdoor place to get some air and calm myself. The following verse immediately came to mind...

"Be still and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

That's the verse I'm going to hold onto for a minute.

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No one in JW religion has a title that elevates them above others! I did not know this fact!

by Faithful Witness in

from jw.org (while waiting for new bible to download, i clicked on the link for "christian," which asks the following question...).

"are we christians?

we are christians, for the following reasons.

NeverKnew

I just had a conversation with a JW friend earlier about this!

She was railing about how Christendom preachers want you to call them "Rev. so and so" and "Pope whatever his name is." I let her go on for a few more minutes about the wrongness of it. I then gently said to her, "XXXX, you know that I'm denominationally unaffiliated and that I hear things differently, right?" She agreed. I then told her the story of how I called a very dear Baptist friend out on the term "ritualistic Catholics" with respect to Catholic services. I asked her if her services had a certain order and then required she tell me where in the Bible her order of services was more right than theirs.

"Okay, XXXX.... now I'm swinging back around to you."

She giggled... "yeah yeah... okay... what?"

I responded... "Let me see if I can remember them all... publisher, auxillery pioneer, pioneer, ministerial servant, circuit overseer, branch coordinator...."

"OH, that's DIFFERENT! Those titles have to do with people's ROLES within the organization. It's not their TITLE..."

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Jan Awake to push the Web Site

by konceptual99 in

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just saw this posted on jwtalk.

it's the cover of the jan awake in german.. the website we should remember!.

NeverKnew

" All jws are required to buy ipads for field service"

They are? or this is what you're expecting will happen...

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Jan Awake to push the Web Site

by konceptual99 in

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just saw this posted on jwtalk.

it's the cover of the jan awake in german.. the website we should remember!.

NeverKnew

I feel comfortable going one more level.

A couple of years ago in a conversation with a "pioneer", I talked about information in their material that I was uncomfortable with. She asked where I got the information and warned that I "must not go to ANY other website other than ..." then she wrote down two or three "WTS approved" sites.

I asked her how I'd know that the information was accurate if I didn't look at the arguments for and against the ideologies. My brain shut down with her first few sentences. All I remember was that I got a 3-5 minute dissertation on Satan who knows the JWs represent the Truth ruling the internet and that, to be safe, I needed to stay away from all other sites. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

For any non-jw reading this - it's one thing to read about these instances and reason that the stories represent isolated events and people. When you really get what's going on, experiencing events like this will take you to another level of concern for them.

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Jan Awake to push the Web Site

by konceptual99 in

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friends

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just saw this posted on jwtalk.

it's the cover of the jan awake in german.. the website we should remember!.

NeverKnew

As a non-jw, the first thing I saw was that a woman's face was glowing in the largest picture. Was that your flash maybe? I hope so...

Next thought, why remember a site name when there's Google?

Even funnier now that I think about it - I wouldn't even try to remember that site name. I would type in "Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs" in Google and that would ONLY be after I had a conversation with another non-jw who revealed the cult-like beliefs.

I can't believe they're encouraging people who are not beholden to their GB to go to the internet. We're an unruly bunch... *giggling*

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Hear Ye!!!Hear Ye!! WONDERFUL GOOD NEWS!!!!

by mouthy in

my jw daughter called me this afternoon!!!!!

!i am just over the moon.

her hubby not a jw has cancer & was operated on today!!!!.

NeverKnew

Oh, Mouthy I am sooo happy for you! I'll be praying that she enjoyed talking to her mom again and that the veil covering the eyes to her mind will wear thin.

Love ya!

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HELP I have until next Wednesday

by KariOtt in

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i have an oppertuinity to try ttatt on an elders wife who is a pioneer who showed up today.

she is willing to meet me one on one to discuss how pedofiles are protected, the blood issue, the flip flpos, how they teach theocratical warfare and hate.

i agreed to only use watchtower and awake publications.

NeverKnew

Kari...

I've been using side doors leveraging my experience in different theologies.

Have you ever been involved in the Catholic faith? That conversation can route you to Raymundus Martini.

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I suspect the WTS mut be feeling pretty good about their own internal security...

by sir82 in

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...since it evidently was not confirmed in advance that the agm was going to be exclusively about releasing the rnwt.. i mean, we all kinda sorta expected it, but no one had a "smoking gun", as it were, officially confirming it.. in contrast, there was the leak, posted on this forum, of the july 15 2013 watchtower, a week or 2 before its official posting on jw.org.. .

i'm sure the rnwt was a well-guarded secret - on the other hand, there has been a rnwt translation committee in existence for 5+ years.

absolutely no one in the "apostate community" even hinted at this committee's existence.

NeverKnew

It's amazing what the threat of one's very salvation and promise of Jehovah's disappointment might make someone do or not do.

Maybe it was an instant disfellowshipping offense? Pack your bags... see ya' bye?

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Will you download the WT app on Monday?

by bytheirworks in

will you download the new watchtower app on monday?.

NeverKnew

Vals idea is perfect!

As a non jw I'd have quite a few questions for the next jw I met if I read something like, "just wait until all non jws realize they worship the harlot of Babylon with THIS version! Maybe those who attend churches will finally realize they're being led by Satan and join the only true religion! "

Those types of comments capture the true essence of the organization.

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Prayers needed.

by zeb in

i figured the hawks win had had enough time so i ask those who are inclined to pray on behalf of others to consider this ;-.

hard working tradie has young relative in 4 car pile up.

the young man was asleep in the back when the car and then others got tangled on a highway into horses that had got out.

NeverKnew

Aw Zeb... This is a lot to take.

Prayers going out for everyone from over here.