oh yes! Thankfully I only invested a solid 5 years and was still in my early 20's when I left. Still though, I wasted the prime of my youth when I could have pursued music, sports etc. Oh well, better late than never
HereIgo
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Do You Ever Think Of ALL The Wasted Time Because You Were a JW?
by minimus inthe longer you are out the more you see how a cult steals all your time, resources and energy.
we wasted so much because we were witnesses!
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Am I selfish?
by Jules Saturn intonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
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HereIgo
Jules,
I have gone through the same exact situation, I feel your pain. In my opinion, you are not selfish at all and should not feel guilt. They are acting this way because they truly feel that you are heading down the wrong path to destruction and love you, but understand they have been conditioned to believe these things. I understand the frustration of you seeing the truth about the Org and them not wanting to hear it. Stay strong.
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JW's are indeed extremists...
by HereIgo inthe current russia ban on jw's accusing them of extremism got me thinking.
at first, i disagreed, only because i am used to our constitutional rights here in the u.s. and feel that individuals should be able to practice whatever religion they prefer, even if i disagree with the teachings.
however, i started thinking of the ways that jw's are in fact extremists and perhaps should be banned.
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HereIgo
The current Russia ban on JW's accusing them of extremism got me thinking. At first, I disagreed, only because I am used to our constitutional rights here in the U.S. and feel that individuals should be able to practice whatever religion they prefer, even if I disagree with the teachings. However, I started thinking of the ways that JW's are in fact extremists and perhaps should be banned. Of course, while an active JW, I never thought of their practices as extreme, but rather justified by scripture, I am sure most of us thought the same.
1. Your own family will allow you to die as a result of refusing a blood transfusion, even children. This is such a horrible practice it makes me sick that I even used to have the POA blood card in my wallet smh.
2. Absolutely no friends of contact with the world unless required such as the workplace. If this doesn't befit the definition of a cult, I don't know what would. Again, this is isn't something you think about too much as a JW, but it really is creepy to avoid association with honest, good people just because they don't go to a brown building 2-3 times a week like you do.
3. No further education. Despite the fact that JW's have been incorrect about the end of the world numerous times and indirectly held numerous JW's back from pursuing advanced education, I'm surprised witnesses continue to even follow this advice. It seems like the Org has softened their stance on this issue in recent times, but high secular education is still subliminally discouraged.
4. SHUNNING. This is my #1 issue with the Organization. We have all shunned people and thought it was normal. I cant believe I participated in such a thing, shunning my own friends because they made a mistake. Ignoring them for up to a year as they sat in the back row of the hall, embarrassed. The Jesus of the Bible would not support this, I am sure of it. The worst is when parents don't speak to their children or vice versa for decades, I used to know an elder who has never even met his grandchildren before. How do they justify this? I suppose it is just brainwashing at its finest. I am glad to be away from it.
This cult is definitely an extremist group. Any other twisted ways you can think of regarding the Org?
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"You're going to die in Armageddon"
by Jules Saturn ini'm sure i am not the only one to have heard this come out of the mouths of my loved ones.
it's a very painful thing to hear, especially when it comes from the people like your own parents/family.
even after i've been told that, they would say "we'll just continue life without you.
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Hello Jules,
I can relate, my Mother told me the same words, almost word for word as your post and we haven't talked in a few years as a result. How I personally was able to get past it was just recognizing it for what it is - MANIPULATION. The number one way to control someone is through fear and the organization has mastered this concept. It is hurtful to hear those words, however, once you realize it is a scare and control tactic it will be easier to deal with in my opinion. Just pray for those family members that have told you that and realize that is them that are living a life full of fear, while you have moved on and living life without fear. It wont take away the hurt, but it will be easier to cope. Hope this helps.
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Most Jw would take a bullet before renouncing faith
by Chook inour enthusiasm for truth is not shared with our former brothers.
they base their whole lives on a historical book yet won't look back 50 years to see origins of cult..
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HereIgo
Good point Chook, I can recall a time when I was a zealous witness and willing to die for
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Russia Ban = Armageddon?
by HereIgo insomething tells me that the russian j dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that armageddon is upon us.
they will be sadly disappointed.
thoughts?.
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Thanks Wake me up, that is precisely what I was referring to I am not sure how that could be misunderstood lol
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Russia Ban = Armageddon?
by HereIgo insomething tells me that the russian j dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that armageddon is upon us.
they will be sadly disappointed.
thoughts?.
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Nowwhat?,
Um.. im sure they would do private study groups if they can't worship freely. Ya know, like they did in Nazi Germany, in secret.
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Russia Ban = Armageddon?
by HereIgo insomething tells me that the russian j dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that armageddon is upon us.
they will be sadly disappointed.
thoughts?.
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HereIgo
Something tells me that the Russian J Dub's are secretly rejoicing, having private study groups and convinced that Armageddon is upon us. They will be sadly disappointed. Thoughts?
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HereIgo
seems legit
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why jw's commit suicide?
by notalone inwe all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
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HereIgo
I agree with the above statements. The standards that the WT puts on their followers are incredibly high. I think some folks get overwhelmed and simply can't handle it anymore. They are constantly being told to do more and more and then in the back of their mind they know from their teachings that they still only "may" survive the end of this system of things.