Posts by raven

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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

by raven in

hi friends,.

can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

raven

So confusing.. What is the point of having this teaching then? If all of those who partake are going to heaven anyways?

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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

by raven in

hi friends,.

can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

Can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching? I have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to? I have read on the forum that many say this is what lead them to realize the TTATT..

I am trying to fade but also trying to research and learn as much as I can to help me solidify that the org is a lie.

Thank you!

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Any one from Colorado?

by raven in

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friends

any one on the forum in the colorado area?.

i would love to get to know local ones who are out of the organization or who are currently df'd da'd faded.

i am going through some tough times trying to endure the journey of fading out of the organization and would love to get to know all of your stories as well as those locally!.

raven

@ BlackWolf

I used to live in Florida!! How crazy, we both switched states!

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I need food for thought..

by raven in

hi friends,it has been 20 years that i've slaved for the wt and through out the past couple of years i could feel myself fighting an urge to accept that something was not right.

i fought it off for so long only for it to resurface frequently throughout my years of pioneering, assembly/convention parts, & speaking with people about the "truth", slaving and giving to try to be a "spiritual person" but in reality i was not spiritual because spirituality (according to the org) is doing all of the things they want you to do.

which then will label you as spiritual... no !!!

raven

Hi friends,

It has been 20 years that I've slaved for the WT and through out the past couple of years I could feel myself fighting an urge to accept that something was not right. I fought it off for so long only for it to resurface frequently throughout my years of pioneering, assembly/convention parts, & speaking with people about the "truth", slaving and giving to try to be a "spiritual person" but in reality I was not SPIRITUAL because spirituality (according to the org) is doing all of the things THEY want you to do. Which then will label you as spiritual... NO !!!

I feel myself becoming more and more frustrated and upset by this not because of my public reproof and the humiliation that has come with that. BUT because I feel like I know NOTHING, I want so badly to be spiritual and come to know God and Jesus..

Friends if you have anything that has helped you to research, read, study, and delve into regarding the JW doctrines, scriptures, anything that will help me to solidify that this isn't right? Am I beginning to "wake up" as some would say, am I starting to realize the truth about the truth? OR am I just being blinded by Satan's influence...? I'm so confused.. Being apart of something from BIRTH is so hard to escape from when it is the only "spiritual" teaching I know..

Feeling very depressed right now,

R

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Another Newbie

by Drifting Away in

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friends

hello, i have been lurking for a while, but discovered ttatt for about 8 months now.

i am trying to fade out, problem is i have a big family i would lose if i got df'ed or da,'ed myself.

my wife knows how i feel, and is not thrilled but i cant hide my feelings.

raven

Hi there DA,

I too am in the process of fading, it is a very painful process personally, I would love to talk back and forth to see how things are going for you on your journey. I was born into the org as well, pioneer of the congragation, parts at assemblies and conventions, yada yada... I have always felt something was off but ignored it and went along with things for the happiness of others...

Much love to you on your journey, I'm very interested in getting to read your story soon someday!

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Update on my current life

by umadevi in

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friends

i'm visiting this site after few years here and it's feels like coming home!

just a recap on my past visits here ... i was a confused single jw mom with a 9 year old son in 2011. some friends here sent me soft copies of coc and few other ebooks which gave me the courage and strength to exit from wt society.

best ever decision i made!

raven

WOW! I hope that I too can gain the confidence that you have developed since exiting the WT. I am currently trying to fade out but it is such a difficult and painful process being that my immediate family is in the organization.

Much love,

your friend Raven!

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Any one from Colorado?

by raven in

jw
friends

any one on the forum in the colorado area?.

i would love to get to know local ones who are out of the organization or who are currently df'd da'd faded.

i am going through some tough times trying to endure the journey of fading out of the organization and would love to get to know all of your stories as well as those locally!.

raven

@stephanie61092

I would love to meet up!! I live relatively close to Garden of the Gods. Would be a lot of fun!!!

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Any one from Colorado?

by raven in

jw
friends

any one on the forum in the colorado area?.

i would love to get to know local ones who are out of the organization or who are currently df'd da'd faded.

i am going through some tough times trying to endure the journey of fading out of the organization and would love to get to know all of your stories as well as those locally!.

raven

Hi everyone,

Any one on the forum in the Colorado area?

I would love to get to know local ones who are out of the organization or who are currently DF'd DA'd faded. I am going through some tough times trying to endure the journey of fading out of the organization and would love to get to know all of your stories as well as those locally!

Much love

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Pioneers and Gas Money

by EXMS in

as some of you might know, i was a pioneer for 4 years...two years regular auxillary and two years regular.

for any of you ol' regular pioneers...while in the ministry and you were driving did the others in the car group give you money for gas?

if it was only pioneers out, then of course no one gave anything since everybody generally shared driving.

raven

Yes, I pioneered 2 years Aux and 2 years Regular.. Not once was I ever given gas money.. It was very upsetting and frustrating especially since I worked only 2 days a week.. Driving around a heavy car full of people from 9-12 and then again from 12-4PM- talking so much to where I couldn't concentrate on where to turn where to go specifically. And not to mention sister "back seat driver" screeching directions and how to drive.. VERY stressful and never again will I do it.

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Any other teenagers on here?

by BlackWolf in

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friends

i'm 16 and it seems like most the people on this forum are adults.

i would think since most teenagers have tablets/smartphones there would be more on here but maybe not?

it would be nice to meet some other young people.

raven

I am no longer a "teen" but as the rest have stated, a teen at heart! I am 21. BUT I do know the struggles of being raised in the organization... It was a dark place (still is) in my life. If you ever want to chat we are all here for support.