Hello Everyone!
It has been quite some time since I've posted, but a lot has happened. I am still with my boyfriend (mentioned in my past and very first post!) Life is going well. Recently mom and step father showered me with new cookware, wasn't exactly sure why but, heck, I'll take new cooking tools. I have not been close in communication with them since leaving the org.. Just last month though, they came to me through text and said, "Hey Raven we're going to have to drop you from our health insurance policy, the health insurance will not carry someone that doesn't live under our household." I immediately called BS, according to HHS.gov a child is able to stay on their parent(s) health insurance IF, they are under 26 years of age, married, not living at home, financially unable to obtain their own health policy. So that being said, I knew that was not the truth. I came to them with the facts and they went back on their lie to, "well we just can't keep you because it's gone up 15%". I ended up going through my employer.. Now the following week, more fun! I get a phone call in the middle of a Friday afternoon at 3 from GEICO to tell me, "Your parents would like to remove your car from their insurance plan so I can help you obtain your own individual plan" What the heck is going on here? I didn't ask questions, I said let's figure it out, and obtained my own individual plan. I thought to myself, why are they kicking me off of all the insurance plans? Perhaps they showered me with gifts (cookware) to prepare me for the blow? Especially since I'm not in the borg anymore, they'd figure, remove me from everything attached to them since I'm apart of the world now? Seemed like a reasonable thought! Until today, Friday, I get a text from my unbelieving grandfather, "You hear about the latest drama? I said, "No, what's going on?", "Your mom is getting divorced." WHAT? Why? How? WHAT? I can't even believe this, so many thoughts, now maybe they got me off of their health plans because of the divorce? Makes sense right? Now that I think back, I did know that she had been trying to live a healthier lifestyle.. Gym, workout, eat healthy, and she was starting to look great physically, what if she met someone at the gym? Job? Something? As you all know, the few basis of divorce in the cult would be adultery, or abuse.. By no means is stepfather abusive. I texted her and said, "You ok?" She replied with, "I'm fine, my choice not his, moving out next Friday." Wow.. Any thoughts? Do you think this could have been catapulted throughout the past 2 years since I left the org?
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8JW Parents getting... DIVORCED
by raven inhello everyone!it has been quite some time since i've posted, but a lot has happened.
i am still with my boyfriend (mentioned in my past and very first post!
) life is going well.
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Never Thought I'd Say This, But I've Found Something to Look Forward to in the Meetings
by Sorry inmy therapist inspired me to start looking on the bright side.
even though i've pretty much given up listening to the bs and usually tune out the meeting by playing on my phone/tablet, i find the local needs talk oddly fascinating.
probably because it's the only part that doesn't seem outlined to death (at least at our hall), and you truly don't know what you get.
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When you might be discovered?
by confused3426 ini am still in my crossroads, and going to some meetings at times.
i have joined facebook ex jw support groups.
on friday one of my friends from my hall, texts me saying he saw a recommendation to join a group, and sees me listed as a member.
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Hmm.. If I were you, I'd create a fake FB account and join the ex JW groups- Just so that you can keep on the down low.. If your buddy feels something is up, he would probably snitch and you'd be in the back room with the elders interrogations.. Be careful, tread lightly...
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School bus driver accused of telling boy he would go to hell because of moms.
by ToesUp inschool-bus-driver-accused-of-telling-boy-hed-go-to-hell-because-of-his-mom/.
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I think this story has a lot of miscontext about it.. What JW says that someones going to "hell" when they don't even believe in such a place? I'm sure the bus driver may have said something, but not to the effect of what this boy claims was said.. Something not right about this one..
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Broke, Dumb & Stupid....GB wants only these people.
by krismalone inmaybe this will become a new catch phrase describing the type of people that the governing body loves to have in their organization and that they create if they're born ins.. broke......dumb......& stupid.
let me explain:.
broke: the gb keeps their members in poverty by condemning higher education and demanding that all their time should be spent peddling the wt propaganda and going to all the meetings.
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WOW, so very true! You couldn't have said it better.
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Brother Hitting on Df'd Brothers Wife at KH
by poopie ininteresting story i have a friend who is df but his wife still faithfully goes to meetings.
there's a single brother in the cong that is always flirting with his wife.
well at a recent meeting my df friend decided to show up to check this brother out.
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I'm sorry but.. what the heck?!
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Internally rolling my eyes.. Get this
by raven ina bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?
wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?
) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.
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Hi everyone!
A bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a JW, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a WT or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. Anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. Well, anyways I was there and so was my JW mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything JW related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how I am an evil sinner, or how I've escaped the org by avoiding DF'ing, right? Wrong, as I'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- I have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like I remember?) so she isn't someone I was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. To give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy JW's.. She claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or GB talks, etc. You get it, the phsyco JW we all have in a hall, the one who would put their foot in the door if a householder was to shut it.. Yea a crazy lady.. So anyways, I see her, and I'm internally rolling my eyes, here we go... So I stand up to say hi since our eyes met, and she grabs me by the wrists of my hands and holds them up, and says to me "I HAVE BEEN HYSTERICALLY CRYING SINCE I FOUND OUT THAT YOU HAVE LEFT JEHOVAH" She goes on and on and on and on about how the battlegrounds have already started to align, and if I am aware of the new arrangement, (I said yes so she'd shut up, but no I don't know what the new arrangement is, can anyone tell me?) As she is going on about me leaving she starts bawling like a baby, crying and crying "COME BACK TO JEHOVAH, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE, SATAN HAS YOU NOW!!!!" Then she proceeds to repeat everything she already said, as I am standing there in complete disbelief, this lady seriously has the guts to pull this crap at my great-grandmothers FUNERAL? What about the whole "there is a time and a place for everything" Seriously? I could not even wrap my head around the fact that this was so inappropriate. As she is continuing to cry and sob like a baby, begging me to come back, saying "Do you promise me you will come back so you don't get destroyed, promise me? PROMISE?" Finally the service was going to begin and she pulls me in for a hug, gets tear drops on my top and goes to sit down.. After the service is over she comes back up to me as I am trying to avoid her, and says "Give me your number, once the girls you went to pioneer school find out about this they are going to be heartbroken, whats your Face-Book, call me, PLEASE!" I said, " I don't have Face-Book, and I have your #, thank you.." (I don't actually have her #) She then says "Promise me you will call me by next week and if I don't hear from you, I will get your #" .... Good god woman, leave me alone!!! So anyways no I have not reached out to this whack job. And I'm not planning on it, but I can only imagine what type of gossip she is spreading,because she is that kind of JW. Just ridiculous, so now I feel as though the funeral for my great-grandmother was in a sense, ruined for me because of this lady, I felt uncomfortable the entire time while I was supposed to be focused on my great grandma, and her life.. Just irritating..
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What did you regrettably not do because you were a Jehovah's Witness ?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses cannot do a lot of things.
i remember pioneers having to quit their jobs because they could not work in a convenience store and sell cigarettes.
i know of a young man who was offered a scholarship to any college or university if he wanted to go to because of his football abilities.
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Gave up on, or didn't even have: non JW friends. and a college education... so sad
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Lunch today with.. JW step father....
by raven init has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.
he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.
hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?
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LONGHAIRGAL- I am an adult, and financially independent ( I own my own home in a different city, about 1 1/2 hours away from my JW family and EX KH ) I will try that next time, I don't want to give off the idea that I am letting my guard down.. He may have a different motive other than a simple generic lunch for future.
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Lunch today with.. JW step father....
by raven init has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.
he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.
hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?
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SCRATCHME1010- I agree with you, I think that is part of what the cult has done to us is instill paranoia.. Its difficult to overcome but I am trying to move past that, I suppose that we just keep our guard up with active JW's.. During lunch, I did not give out any personal information, I didn't even give away my new address.. ( the elders were stalking me at the old one ) I just feel I will always have to tread lightly with step father, or even any JW if I come into contact with one.
SMIDDY & ALOSPUPPYDOG- Thank you, I hope so too in due time. However, I do believe he is trying to test the waters.. I honestly believe he sees me as "getting away with it" because I avoided the elders at all costs and never returned their calls or invites to Judicial Meetings so that they could catch me and disfellowship me.
WINGCOMMANDER & ORPHANCROW- Yes yes I know.. I had(have?) some very bitter feelings towards him.. I just try to not think about it, it's in all honesty a very confusing situation. But, I did get a free lunch out of it? Like I mentioned, I tread lightly with him.. This was our first meeting since he had reported me.. He didn't mention anything about it, he didn't talk about elders. BUT like others have said, he is probably testing me. I'm aware of it though.
KAIROS- I understand your point, and I definitely agree.. I have already been thrown under the bus by my own mother.. I don't trust these folks for a second, I do have wishful thinking though.. Do you think it would be worth it to DA at this point? Or just go on like I have been, faded, and dodged the elders. ( They have not contacted me since August, however I did move to a different home, the new owners of my previous house have probably noted "return to sender" if the elders have dropped any mail )