so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
JUSTFINE-
How did things work out after you moved? I think moving homes will definitely help with getting rid of their ability to contact me. I will definitely take your advice on going through the post office to pick up mail.. I would rather have it sent there than even risk the elders getting a hold of where I will be living. Were you able to get off of their radar by doing this?
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
WASANELDERONCE-
I've noticed the elders seem to make some of their own rules to add into the existing rules.. I've been treading VERY lightly.. I've came up with a plan- Firstly I've received 2 letters and multiple phone calls & voice messages from them, blocked the phone numbers they were calling me on. I haven't acknowledged their letters, I also haven't told my mother I've received them, at this point I've figured it out, she is their spy in this, working with them ( giving them my address, playing along with the false anonymous tipper allegation to get me to turn myself in, and also she may provide them with info if I tell her I've received 2 letters at my door.. ) I have no plans on contacting these annoying elders. AT ALL. I've moved on with life, their whole point is to get me to confess, repent, leave my boyfriend, and return to the cult.. Nope. I've been living a great life since out, never been happier.. So now, since I am moving next week, this provides the perfect opportunity to disappear off the radar.. Don't you think they'd just give up already?
( are you an ex elder? )
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
INTROVERT2- Too funny, if only I had the courage to actually do that!
DOC- I would consider the multiple phone calls and voicemail's I've received prior to these 2 letters as attempts of contact. So annoying! Have you ever dealt with anything like this?
CRABBY- LOL!!!! Should I also bring a stripper pole with me too?! I bet they'd crap their pants.
JWLEAKS- If it continues to be harassment and they don't stop even with my avoiding them, I will be taking the letters to the police station, and I've also saved the voicemails.. Stalkers..
hi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!
anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!
) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?
LOST AND ADRIFT - Ohh what a distraction for the poor brothers, struggling not to look at her boobs while in passing, those poor poor men! I guess if you're going to get your boobs done, maybe you'd want to at least tell a difference?!
i'm a middle aged man.
i dated a jw lady for 3 months ., we never had sex, just made out , half naked , well everything except underwear .
she has been a jw for 40 years ., was married to a jw but he committed adultery 13 years ago so they divorced .
Since you two have been intimate.. ( Doesn't matter if you heavily petted half naked, still considered sin in JW land) If she is pulled back in and "comes to her senses" she may go to the elders and confess, if she is repentant then she will cut off contact with you.. - Not saying this will happen but it's a possibility.
If you really do have a strong connection with this woman I would continue talking, bring out points that make her think about this religion. Since she has been in for a good amount of time it may be difficult to show her the real truth the borg. I say keep chatting, see where it goes, but keep guarded for it's difficult to keep a relationship with someone who's on two sides of the fence.
well it took awhile.
i've downsized.
got rid of my bmw.
JAMES MIXON- You have a point.. I am referring to present day though, of course now a days Jehovah would neverrrr let an apostate into the mix of his precious people at Bethel..
wednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
Very good points, I 100% agree. These elders are not appointed by God's Holy Spirit.. They're appointed by other men in the cong/org/GB..
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
SADELDER-
Are you an ex-elder? Do you know any past experiences similar this situation? Especially as far as sending letters go?
odd.... friends of mine recently became members of an evangelical church.. up until they got baptised in this church, they still were visiting the jw meetings on a regular basis.they weren't really fading in the true sense of the word.. they came out of the closet about their new conviction quite publicly and even didn't shy away from getting in debate with the elders on biblical topics.. the elders are obviously very aware about their position and as they still were attending the meetings not so long ago, they clearly can be considered as people associated with the jw organisation.. as far as i know it seems they won't get disfellowshipped.
as long my friends don't harrass fellow witnesses with their 'renegade ideas' and 'false religion', elders seem to comply and leave things as they are.. this puzzles me as defecting to babylon the great always has been one the most worst offenses a jw could possibly commit.. could this be a case of local elders interpreting/applying things their own way or is there a (new) general policy trending ?.
anyone who knows about similar cases ?.
Ok, this is weird.. And the elders just flat out don't seem to care? Wouldn't you think they'd be concerned that this couple would say "false things" about the orgs teaching based on their newfound religion? Hmm..
so last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
OUTLAW- I sure hope not... Would they really go through the effort to drive down here and catch me walking around? They must really want to know my juicy sexy secrets.
GIORDANO-
I hope that it doesn't come to full blown stalking.. But I don't think it will, being that I move next week.. Unless they're just really good with timing stakeouts.. If they did, I wouldn't think twice about calling the police.. Hasn't the org received any punishment from stalking? ( I have heard other experiences of stakeouts by elders nearby the accused home, or place of work )
C.R.S. 18-3-602. Stalking - penalty - definitions -
(3) A person who commits stalking:
(a) Commits a class 5 felony for a first offense except as otherwise provided in subsection (5) of this section; or
(b) Commits a class 4 felony for a second or subsequent offense, if the offense occurs within seven years after the date of a prior offense for which the person was convicted.
