Posts by raven

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Our secretly recorded disfellowshipping and 2 year anniversary since leaving on Watchtower Victims Memorial Day!!!

by Christian Gutierrez in

hey guys it's been 2 years since leaving and this is how life has gone for us since then.

hope you guys have had a positive experience too!

cheers 😃.

Judgment Message Training Video Has Been Leaked!

by OneGenTwoGroups in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6dur7ol_8w.

Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY

by cappytan in

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this took quite a while this evening.

so worth it though.

hope you enjoy!

after exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?

right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.

i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.

raven

MUDDYWATERS-

So very sorry about your experience, I had commented on another post basically stating that all though we have different experiences in leaving the cult, we all still have the same connection that lead us to leaving, its very hard to cope with being lied to especially for many many years.. I was too very indoctrinated, mind controlled and brainwashed. A dear friend on this forum related to the members of the organization as people with Stockholm Syndrome.. Being connected and bonded with their captors- pretty much how most active JW's are they will defend this sick and twisted child abusing cooperation.. Awful stuff.

Also the dreams you had are so hurtful.. I always felt like Jehovah wasn't there for me, people would claim to have this amazing relationship with him and I tried so so hard to have that too but I always felt he was just very distant.

XANTHIPPE -

Thank you for the encouraging message, I am relieved that this forum is available to vent through and connect with you all, its so nice to be able to be with a group that understands the hurt the org has caused each of us.

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Are you sad or angry?

by raven in

after exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?

right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.

i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.

raven

NAMELESS-

I am so sorry you're going through this, I can relate.. I agree that it's best for your kids to escape the chains of the cult.. I didn't go to college because the org strongly encouraged to avoid forms of higher education.. Load of crap and I listened. I gave 2 1/2 years to pioneering instead after High School only to get a pat on the back and then interrogated by a JC when I "sinned" - they're eager to use you to count their time and show you off to make them look good but once you screw up they kick you out, or coerce you like an animal to come back in after you've been backstabbed..

GIORDANO-

Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate them a lot. I'll note your comment for when I'm feeling down to take a look at and snap back into reality! Mom is very mind controlled and I suppose it isn't her fault for being this way- its what the org has made her into. So sad.

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Today's Text - You MUST Love Jehovah!

by Divergent in

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thursday, september 1. you must love jehovah your god.—matt.

22:37.. if you have a loving relationship with jehovah, you will be a ‘doer of the word, not a hearer only.’ (jas.

1:22-25) a “doer” has faith that produces such works as zealous preaching activity and participation in christian meetings.

raven

I always look forward to your daily text post, you dissect the lies in each sentence perfectly! Thank you for the post, makes ya think deep with these ones!

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60th Anniversary today - I was baptized 9-01-56

by Bonnie_Clyde in

60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .

my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.

my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.

raven

Wow thanks for the post Bonnie, I always find it interesting to read other stories- all stories are different yet so similar in our ties with the cult.. Its so nice to hear after many years out you are doing well a long side your children and husband- It's so hard to make way after finding out about the truth about the truth.. I hope that I can find the light at the end of the tunnel as you have! Thank you for your experience!

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Are you sad or angry?

by raven in

after exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?

right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.

i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.

raven

After exiting the org, I mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends? Right now I am going through the motions, I've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. I can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although I am not DF'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming I've been avoiding them and the 2 JC's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before I moved ) My mom treats me as though I am dead to her, she says " I am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until I come back to Jehovah this is how things will be because this was MY choice to leave Jehovah " Ok I get it, but I don't- Everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "Shun Unrepentant Wrongdoers" talk at the RC, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. She claims that she has an obligation to Jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old. I absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. I always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional. It's very hard to accept the pain of your own mom treating you as if you were dead. Its because she wants me in the org, she thinks she's doing good for me because "shunning is a loving provision" and I want nothing to do with the lies, deception, insidious teachings and mind controlled brainwashed people in it. I will probably never get her to wake up, she's very indoctrinated and it really saddens me.. So I guess what I am saying now is are you all still in the sad stage of your leaving the cult, or has the sadness turned into anger?

I'll probably reach the anger point soon, but right now it's indescribable how flat out sad I am- How can this organization say they are a happy loving people when they do this to family?

Anyways just a rant here on my end, I'm in a good place over all, new job as of yesterday closer to home, just moved to a new house, things are looking up and positive with my guy and I, and feeling good having free time now that meetings are a long gone routine for me. So overall I'm happy but when I think about my mom I get sad.. Kind of annoying but it is what it is.

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Elders and Attendants sing, clap and turn backs on Street Preacher after Duluth RC.

by ToesUp in

very strange behavior by the attendants and elders after the duluth, ga, rc.

on the first link the attendants start to exit the arena, then line up and turn their backs on the street preachers.

(around the 6:00 mark).. elders and attendants after duluth rc.

raven

Very disturbing.. What a bunch of loonies. They think they're so much better and prouder than anyone, and any other religion. How is this any different from a singing gospel church with dancing members singing loud praising the lord clapping their hands? But yet if you ask a JW about that, they'll have a comeback on how that isn't showing praise to God, it's taking away from the message through distraction. Umm what are they doing here in this video? Hmm.. Irony

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Convention Videos: Someone messed up royally

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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when i first saw the video, i was like, "wait... is that her... panties showing through the dress"?and it seems like it is so.turns out that if you look at the middle right of the video, there are some letters.

it reads, "footage provided by pond5".if someone wants to purchase that video to confirm, you can purchase it here:http://depositphotos.com/63621499/stock-video-violinist-girl-walking-through-a.htmli think that this was a royal mess up because i doubt they would put footage of a sister in a skimpy, revealing dress.doesn't the gb approve this?this will probably go down as another of the "subliminal images"...if there are thongs in paradise... might not be so bad after all!.

raven

Too funny!