Side note ** A part of me really does feel bad in a way for ignoring and blowing off because some of these elders are nice people deep down ** But maybe it's just all made out to be this love bomb even though it's not, I would be walking into my own demise.
Posts by raven
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63I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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MR FLIPPER- I would really appreciate if you commented on this one!
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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So last night, after thinking "Wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since I skipped out on their JC invitation back on August 1st they've given up" WRONG.. I go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- Lo and behold, ANOTHER letter from from these elders.. Why won't they leave me alone already? I'll attach a picture of the letter.. Again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a Judicial Committee on August 15th - and signed by all three elders.. Should I just continue to ignore? Quite frankly I don't give a rats arse I've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and I just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. Like I mentioned before, I am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after I gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. So lets just say she won't be getting my new address... I don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (I'm an ex pioneer, so I'm sure if they've gotten word on what I'm doing, I must be Satan himself!) I do not feel I'm misleading anyone, I no longer profess to be a member of this organization, I have nothing to do with it, I've cut all ties completely and have made my mind up that I am done with it for good. Another point that really irks me is that they state in the letter to be reassured of their warm Christian love.. So they say they're just going to be nice and sweet to me if I go, basically coercing me into a cage like a dog.
What do you all think of this? Thoughts appreciated.
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Poor Sisters
by Darryl ini really felt for you sisters i mean i really did.
when you showed up at the sunday meeting and found out the subject of the talk was going to be -and i can't quite remember the exact wording- but something to the effect of marriage and headship, or honoring and obeying your husband, or something like that how many of you wanted to jump right back in your car and head home.
i mean 45 straight minutes of beating down you poor ladies and telling you that you are not worthy of making one decision, taking the lead in anything, don't question the man be obedient and keep quiet.
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REBEL8- You've got that right.. One day the org says women are an asset to the congregation, the next day they're saying we're weak and must be submissive.. Definitely true on the menstrual cycles and labor pains, ( I've thought about it, but not like how you worded it) -
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Plastic Surgery
by raven inhi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!
anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!
) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?
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QUARTERBACK- Too funny about daddy makeover.
SEVAN- Wow, yea I can imagine how irritating it would be to see someone just enjoy a lavish life style especially when you're working your butt off paycheck to paycheck- was this woman in the org? Totally agree with you about pregnancy taking a toll women, I have no problem with surgeries, but just from a JW standpoint you'd think they would continue to be opposed to it ( I found an article on plastic surgery on JW. ORG ) since the end could be "any day now"
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Plastic Surgery
by raven inhi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!
anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!
) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?
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BONSAI- I agree with you about not caring, but (for me atleast) it's always kind of interesting to just see how tight laced they are when it comes to what you can and cannot do with your own life choices.
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Plastic Surgery
by raven inhi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!
anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!
) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?
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Hi everyone- I don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) August 1st has past, (the day the Judicial Committee was supposedly held against me- and that I didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully I am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky JC invite mail!)
Anyways, I'm getting off the main reason why I'm posting.. So I have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( I'm not crazy I swear! ) I was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances? I know a year or 2 ago Anthony Morris did that crazy talk on how "SPANX" are too revealing, colorful mens' socks and tight pants are oh so distracting and metro-sexual! I haven't heard anything of recent regarding cosmetic surgery though.. For a good amount of time a while back it was a huge topic of discussion among JW's especially women in the org- Botox, breast implants, tattoos etc.. Has anyone heard anything recently regarding this? I always found it funny that women were getting breast implants, face lifts, or mommy makeovers etc especially since " the end is just around the corner and Jah will make us PERFECT" .. Anyone have opinions on this topic? By no means am I saying I'm opposed to cosmetic surgeries (I had one after exiting the org) - But it just makes me pause and think for a minute especially when women IN the org get these things done assuming tribulation is coming tomorrow.
What are your thoughts?
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I have to vent about someone...
by babygirl30 ini'm sorry if this comes across as rude or mean, but i'm sorry - not sorry!
there is a woman that was in my congregation for years.
she was dating a 'worldly' man at the time and ended up df'd.
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I agree with the others, she must be attempting to prove to herself that this organization isn't a bunch of BS. That's why shes figured "Hey maybe if I get a DF'd person back in then Jehovah's amazing spirit of truth is real."
If I were you and she sends another message, I would probably just stop replying.. There's no sense in talking with ones who firmly believe this is the so called truth, it's like beating a dead horse. ( it kind of sounds like she doubts, but then she stops herself and reverts back to the org being the truth, seemingly to keep herself from realizing its all a scam ) If she believes the org is the real channel through which God rules, then I would tell her to focus on herself.. Especially since she's a second timer with Disfellowshipping... LOL what a joke.
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Here's another one
by stillin inthis guy was an elder.
i'm sorry if somebody already posted this.. http://abc7.com/news/former-oc-teacher-charged-w--sexually-assaulting-teen-boy/1458295/.
anybody know him?.
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Good for getting authorities involved.. No need for calling him into a Judicial Committee just to get a slap on the wrist, then there would be another case in the ARC for an unreported sex crime against a child.. I bet if you showed this article to any JW they would probably say something along the lines of "He was probably under demon possession!" or "This is apostate material *shuts off computer* Can't let these false accusations disturb my loyalty to Jehovah" Yea right- How about the simple truth that this man is a real sick twisted phony.
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Poor Sisters
by Darryl ini really felt for you sisters i mean i really did.
when you showed up at the sunday meeting and found out the subject of the talk was going to be -and i can't quite remember the exact wording- but something to the effect of marriage and headship, or honoring and obeying your husband, or something like that how many of you wanted to jump right back in your car and head home.
i mean 45 straight minutes of beating down you poor ladies and telling you that you are not worthy of making one decision, taking the lead in anything, don't question the man be obedient and keep quiet.
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Yikes seriously? I completely agree with whats been said. As far as Sam Herd's talk, I do remember him saying something also along the lines of how the women are all the "weaker vessel".
The way the org words these topics is just bizarre. Thank goodness I am out, no more dealing with misogynist elders (at least in my ex hall) eager to hear my sex experiences while calling me in for a Judicial Committee... "Now where did he touch you to be exact, was there any penetration?" * Mind you one of the elders in my JC interrogating me was also the "16 year old punk" - What a bunch of perverts.