SEVAN- I have never ever understood why so many people in the organization ( I know a few that sound like this woman ) can live life like this.. And yet they're never brought to the back room like those of us who have (me) had relations before marriage with ONE PERSON. Not dabbling in men one after another, living lavish, "bad" association, and taking advantage of people in the congregation.. Doesn't that seem worse than having an intimate relationship with a guy and keeping quiet about it? Gets me going that these people still present themselves as these righteous goody-two-shoes, all while getting cosmetic surgeries, living a seemingly rich lifestyle, ( materialism ) tax fraud, and a haughty attitude. - I don't have a problem if someone is like that, but when they pretend to be something they're not, ( Ex: a perfect Jdub ) then I have a problem and become bitter because I'm going through a $#!t show with the elders right now for " sex before marriage" what a joke.
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by raven inhi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!
anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!
) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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DIVERGENT- YES! I feel like I am piecing this puzzle together.. I was mind blown when my mom first told me that the elders have an anonymous tipper, I demanded to know who it was and she says: " It wasn't me, but you know Jehovah always reveals the truth.." And then I came to thinking that someone anonymous who attends same congregation as I once did is pretty much impossible being that I live an hour + away, in a different town, the house is also nestled back in neighborhoods here ( very hard to find ) .. There is no way someone would have any proof of me living with my boyfriend, unless they actually stalked me and followed me into the house.. So I've concluded my mother lied and claimed an anonymous tipper outed me to the elders so that I would give in and confess on my own. She is the ONLY one that knows. So therefore I don't think they can just go off of her word only right? This is is definitely why I keep getting invited to JC's. I'm wondering if they'll keep sending letters each time I don't show up? I've already blocked all of their phone numbers, and the KH number they've tried calling me on too.. I move to a new home next week and like I mentioned, I will not be giving my mother my new address ( she obviously gave it to the elders so that they could do this ) - I feel like once I move, maybe the contact will cease. If they continue to send letters to my old address, maybe the new homeowner will return it to them on my behalf LOL!
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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DJS- I'm not necessarily saying I'm at a loss of what to do, I'm simply showing and explaining this saga of events.
I didn't attend the last JC invite held on August 1st.. I was told that if I didn't attend the first (on this forum through others experiences) that I would have been DF'd through absentia. Secondly as far as your advice on obtaining a lawyer, I would prefer not to drag this out into a legal matter - Do you know how much that would cost me?
I'm choosing not to meet with these people but I am just curious on what to expect if I follow through with blowing them off for the second time, or why they are continuing to invite me to JC's.
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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Good Point DESIROUSOFCHANGE -
Do you think that since their 1 witness is my mother ( apparently they claim they have 2, but the second is anonymous,- I don't buy it since I live over an hour away in a different town than where the congregation is located.. I've asked others about this on the forum and they think that the anonymous tipper was my mother, so then she claimed that they have 2 witnesses to trick me into turning myself in. ) Why do you think they're calling me in for a second JC? Since I skipped the last one I was invited to on August 1st? I assumed they would have made their decision after I didn't show on the first.. Why are they inviting me to a second? Is it because there really is no anonymous tipper? So they're trying to get me to confess on my own?
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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Ignore the Cong name LOL
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by raven inhi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!
anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!
) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?
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BLONDIE - Yes this is the article that I was referring to!
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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Side note ** A part of me really does feel bad in a way for ignoring and blowing off because some of these elders are nice people deep down ** But maybe it's just all made out to be this love bomb even though it's not, I would be walking into my own demise.
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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MR FLIPPER- I would really appreciate if you commented on this one!
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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So last night, after thinking "Wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since I skipped out on their JC invitation back on August 1st they've given up" WRONG.. I go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- Lo and behold, ANOTHER letter from from these elders.. Why won't they leave me alone already? I'll attach a picture of the letter.. Again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a Judicial Committee on August 15th - and signed by all three elders.. Should I just continue to ignore? Quite frankly I don't give a rats arse I've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and I just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. Like I mentioned before, I am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after I gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. So lets just say she won't be getting my new address... I don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (I'm an ex pioneer, so I'm sure if they've gotten word on what I'm doing, I must be Satan himself!) I do not feel I'm misleading anyone, I no longer profess to be a member of this organization, I have nothing to do with it, I've cut all ties completely and have made my mind up that I am done with it for good. Another point that really irks me is that they state in the letter to be reassured of their warm Christian love.. So they say they're just going to be nice and sweet to me if I go, basically coercing me into a cage like a dog.
What do you all think of this? Thoughts appreciated.
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by Darryl ini really felt for you sisters i mean i really did.
when you showed up at the sunday meeting and found out the subject of the talk was going to be -and i can't quite remember the exact wording- but something to the effect of marriage and headship, or honoring and obeying your husband, or something like that how many of you wanted to jump right back in your car and head home.
i mean 45 straight minutes of beating down you poor ladies and telling you that you are not worthy of making one decision, taking the lead in anything, don't question the man be obedient and keep quiet.
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REBEL8- You've got that right.. One day the org says women are an asset to the congregation, the next day they're saying we're weak and must be submissive.. Definitely true on the menstrual cycles and labor pains, ( I've thought about it, but not like how you worded it)