Posts by Riley

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Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

by pizzahut2023 in

ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

Riley

Man

What a great discussion people. I wish I could write as well as some of you.

The great point I have come to realize is how little anyone in the Borg realizes the complexities of the old testament and the prospective in which the new testament authors are writing or speaking about Jesus Christ. This was the very issue that woke me up.

I am of the opinion that the touchable visible manifestions of god in the old testament were Christ who somehow existed as both god and not god at the same.

Does it make sense ? Not really but that is the story.

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Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

by pizzahut2023 in

ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

Riley

In the old testament it says the LORD lead the Israelis out of Egypt, an angel with Name of the Lord and the presence of the LORD lead the Israelis out of Egypt.

The point is it rather ambiguous who LORD is and I believe it is by design.

The idea that the creator stepped into his creation as one of us seems a lot more appealing than god just tortured than Angel to death.

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Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

by pizzahut2023 in

ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

Riley

It all goes back into the old testament. There is an invisible omnipotent yahweh and then there is some kind of divine manifestion yahweh who deals directly with humanity. It is all very weird. The two figures become so intertwined you are not sure who is what and what is who.

The new testament is the realization that Jesus is this second yahweh or whatever and the term LORD becomes as ambiguous in the new testament as in the old testament.

I have always thought the whole Jesus though Jehovah idea was kind of weak. It is also very similar to the Trinity which is kind of funny.

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Regional Convention Attendance

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).

he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.

co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.

Riley

I was dropping my wife off ( I didn't actually attend ) and I swear every 50 feet one of those parking attendants would basically step in front of my truck. I had to explain to every fucking one of them, I have a beard and a camo jacket, I am not not attending and it is not that hard how to figure out to drive up to the door and get out of this parking lot. Finally told the last one he was more of a nuisance than actually any help.

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Regional Convention Attendance

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).

he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.

co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.

Riley

They keep switch the territories around , so my guess is you have no idea if the borg is growing or declining. Our assembly had about 3500 in attendance with a population base of maybe 1.8-2 million people. It use to be one province, 1 million people and 5000 in attendance. Now they are starting to lump provinces together.

Still lots of young families which is something I find really sad. Even since covid , it doesn't surprise me. People want to believe in some against the grain narrative to feel special.

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

Riley

The heavily vaccinated countries of the world have aging populations and are dealing with a whole host of obesity related health problems. The idea of comparing Kenya to the UK is stupid.

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Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom

by XBEHERE in

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friends

i can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.

this had to come down from the top.

maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.

Riley

How the hell else do they expect me to watch hockey in my underpants while attending a meeting ?

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S Club 7 star died of NATURAL causes.....

by BoogerMan in

“a spokesperson from dorset coroner's office told the bbc that due to the nature of his death there would be no inquest.

no further details were given on cause of death by the coroner.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65633872.

no "further" details were given?

Riley

I have a know a guy whose wife just died of complications in child birth and she is now all over twitter " Died Suddenly " . What makes it worse she was a nurse so she had to be vaccinated so of course.

I know another family who lost a son to an overdose and he is all over the anti-vaxxer sites.

Fucking opportunistic ghouls, cruising the obits for misery, not giving a shit about the families.

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S Club 7 star died of NATURAL causes.....

by BoogerMan in

“a spokesperson from dorset coroner's office told the bbc that due to the nature of his death there would be no inquest.

no further details were given on cause of death by the coroner.” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65633872.

no "further" details were given?

Calling the tetragrammation Jehovah and adding it to the new testament is trying to clear up the ambiguity and it is just not correct. It is a mess and a mess by design.