Im not making it up. (the story that is). Im sure its about as true as the one's I heard about families in Africa wading through crocodile infested waters to get to a meeting.
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Crazy stories of JW's sacrifices
by IronGland ini remember hearing of a failthful older brother who was attacked by vicious dogs while in service.
even though his clothes were shredded and he was bleeding he continued walking door to door to finish his assigned territory for that day.
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Crazy stories of JW's sacrifices
by IronGland ini remember hearing of a failthful older brother who was attacked by vicious dogs while in service.
even though his clothes were shredded and he was bleeding he continued walking door to door to finish his assigned territory for that day.
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IronGland
I remember hearing of a failthful older brother who was attacked by vicious dogs while in service. Even though his clothes were shredded and he was bleeding he continued walking door to door to finish his assigned territory for that day.
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The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - Ch. 15 - Of Numbers, Poop, & Other...
by RunningMan inwell, i guess its about time that i dealt with one of the housekeeping issues of this book numbers.
although i have dealt with the bibles poor mathematical skills in the chapter the numbers of the book, up to this point i have only proven that in some cases, the bibles numbers are physically impossible.
when it comes to the size and contents of the temple or and the length of the egyptian bondage, the numbers just dont add up.
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IronGland
I once read that the entire Roman Empire in the time of Christ was not much over 1,000,000 people, so how could puny little Israel who never had ANY empire, because they were too busy killing each other, have a larger population 1500 years BEFORE Christ's time?
Farkel
It's been estimated that the city of Rome's population approached 1 million around that time.It was the largest city in the ancient world. The population for the empire would have been much larger.
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Rutherford Mind Control B S.
by frankiespeakin intheocracy.
by j. f. rutherford: .
when you read parts of it just rambles on and on with nothing no facts just hogwash gibberish and so it confusses the reader except where it gets incredibly simple and says this in the conclusion.
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IronGland
Looks like one of JCanon or YouKnow's posts to this board.
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American Hiroshima?
by IronGland in**disclaimer** the following comes from worldnetdaily aka wingnutdaily.
washington as london recovers from the latest deadly al-qaida attack that killed at least 50, top u.s. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on america one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history.. according to captured al-qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "american hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the u.s. over the mexican border with the help of the ms-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.
al-qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former soviet union including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads.
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IronGland
comparing tons to kilotons...apples and oranges
its going
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American Hiroshima?
by IronGland in**disclaimer** the following comes from worldnetdaily aka wingnutdaily.
washington as london recovers from the latest deadly al-qaida attack that killed at least 50, top u.s. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on america one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history.. according to captured al-qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "american hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the u.s. over the mexican border with the help of the ms-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.
al-qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former soviet union including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads.
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IronGland
a tiny fraction of the 150,000 kilotons
I think you mean 15 kilotons.
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American Hiroshima?
by IronGland in**disclaimer** the following comes from worldnetdaily aka wingnutdaily.
washington as london recovers from the latest deadly al-qaida attack that killed at least 50, top u.s. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on america one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history.. according to captured al-qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "american hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the u.s. over the mexican border with the help of the ms-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.
al-qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former soviet union including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads.
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IronGland
Anyone wanna buy a bridge?
Sure. I like a good deal.
Actually, I agree it sounds a bit farfetched as does most everything from WND, however the idea of getting a small nuke from one of the former soviet states sounds somewhat plausible.
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American Hiroshima?
by IronGland in**disclaimer** the following comes from worldnetdaily aka wingnutdaily.
washington as london recovers from the latest deadly al-qaida attack that killed at least 50, top u.s. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on america one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history.. according to captured al-qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "american hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the u.s. over the mexican border with the help of the ms-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.
al-qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former soviet union including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads.
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**Disclaimer** The Following comes from WorldNetDaily aka WingNutDaily.
WASHINGTON – As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America – one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history.
According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.
Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.
In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.
The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."
At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.
But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.
According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.
"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."
According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.
However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.
Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.
Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.
The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.
According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.
Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.
There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. – at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border.
The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.
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Are you a Chatty Cathy around strangers?
by Maverick inmy gf and i just came back from london and scotland and this came up during the trip.
i like to joke and make small talk with the service people and other guests i encounter while my gf thinks this behavior is rude.
in all fareness she is from the north, conn. and only moved to the south a few years ago, while i moved from mass.
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IronGland
I dont think its rude,mav. I do hate it when i'm obviously having a bad day and a stranger keeps making jokes or smalltalk and then acts offended when I dont respond in kind.
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IronGland
At present, there is not a single state in the US which would list a college 'streaker' as a sexual offender.Also, most states require a significant age difference between sexual partners before the tag "sexual offender" is placed on the older participant.
Kimberlee D. Norris
attorney at law
Title: He grabbed girl's arm -- now he's a sex offender
Source: Chicago Sun-Times
URL Source: http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-molest01.html
Published: Jul 1, 2005
Author: Steve Patterson
Post Date: 2005-07-01 17:36:16 by Defender
9 CommentsFitzroy Barnaby said he had to swerve to avoid hitting the 14-year-old Des Plaines girl who walked in front of his car.
She said he yelled, "Come here, little girl," before getting out of his car and grabbing her by the arm.
He said he simply lectured her.
She said she broke free and ran, fearful of what he'd do next.
In a Thursday ruling, the Appellate Court of Illinois said the 28-year-old Evanston man must register as a sex offender.
While acknowledging it might be "unfair for [Barnaby] to suffer the stigmatization of being labeled a sex offender when his crime was not sexually motivated," the court said his actions are the type that are "often a precursor" to a child being abducted or molested.
Though Barnaby was acquitted of attempted kidnapping and child abduction charges stemming from the November 2002 incident, he was convicted of unlawful restraint of a minor -- which is a sex offense.
'Most stupid ruling'
Now, he will have to tell local police where he lives and won't be able to live near a park or school.
"This is the most stupid ruling the appellate court has rendered in years," said Barnaby's Chicago attorney, Frederick Cohn. "If you see a 15-year-old beating up your 8-year-old and you grab that kid's hand and are found guilty of unlawful restraint, do you now have to register as a sex offender?"
But Cook County state's attorney spokesman Tom Stanton said Barnaby should have to register "because of the proclivity of offenders who restrain children to also commit sex acts or other crimes against them."
In the criminal case against him, Cook County Judge Patrick Morse said that "it's more likely than not" Barnaby planned only "to chastise the girl" when he grabbed her, but "I can't read his mind."
"I don't really see the purpose of registration in this case. I really don't," Morse said. "But I feel that I am constrained by the statute."
Recognizing the stigma that comes with being labeled as a sex offender, the appellate court said "it is [Barnaby's] actions which have caused him to be stigmatized, not the courts."
Thank you, stillconcerned. This is not an issue where folks should be amusing themselves by bringing up moot points in order to 'yank people's chains', and the clarification was much-needed.
**Disclaimer** the above post is not intended to bring up a moot point, amuse myself or yank talesin's chain.
I wanted to say something, but didn't have the knowledge of US laws to do so.
Then why would you want to say something?