JWTom, thanks for bringing this up. First time I hear about it. As far as I know, the oldest reference to pornography and disfellowshipping is the '06 QfR. What did the elders use to do before that? Were there any instructions? I tried to look up letters to the elders online, but I couldn't find anything relevant.
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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TD, you're right. I just watchtowered it:
*** w58 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers ***
That's it. No apologies there.
● Are we to consider the injection of serums such as diphtheria toxin antitoxin and blood fractions such as gamma globulin into the blood stream, for the purpose of building up resistance to disease by means of antibodies, the same as the drinking of blood or the taking of blood or blood plasma by means of transfusion?—N. P., United States.
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A chance for the unrighteous?
by AlainAlam inthe witnesses teach that the "unrighteous" are brought back to life in order to learn about god during the 1000-year reign.
i don't think that's a bible teaching, for the following reason:.
1) no verse says that.
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Vanderhoven7, are you still discussing this thread's topic (biblical evidence that the unrighteous will get a chance to learn the truth and change) or are you discussing something else?
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How can I change my avatar?
by AlainAlam inon my profile, under "update avatar", i click on "upload avatar image" and choose the picture i want, but it doesn't work.
i know it says there may be a slight delay but i've been waiting for more than 12 hours so i'm wondering if there's something wrong with the site, or if i'm missing something..
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I did, but it didn't work either.
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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Hello Nitty-Gritty,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and for the effort you're putting into being objective. This shows your genuineness :) I noticed two persons disliked your comments, don't let that bother you :)
Allow me, however, to answer two points you mentioned.
The first is that the "misinterpretation was a mistake and not done out of malice". I believe I agree. I have a hard time thinking these men would actually *want* to cause unscriptural divorces - particularly given all they've done, like promoting communication in the family, for example. But that was not my point. The fact that they didn't even admit responsibility or apologize for such a mistake is the problem. I can't understand how someone repentant would go on with his life without saying "here's my mistake, I'm sorry about it". It's like John Baptist said: produce fruits that befit repentance. Where are those fruits?
The second is "The marriages were already broken if there existed sexual disharmony among the marriage mates". Well, no. A problem between me and my wife doesn't break my family. We can work through it. If we accept the biblical perspective that divorce is only acceptable in cases of immorality outside marriage, then one mate's abhorring lewd practices inside marriage is not grounds for divorce. If a spiritual authority tells me such a divorce would be acceptable in Jehovah's eyes, and I choose to divorce (inside of working to salvage my marriage) based on this authority's assessment, then that authority played a direct role in the breaking of my marriage. I think that's obvious.
Please do let me know if you think I'm missing something!
Alain
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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waton, aha, got it :)
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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Hello Atlantis! I just read your post there. I don't know how it was then, but it is my understanding that a JW can disagree with Watchtower teachings as long as he does not promote dissent within the Organization - at which point he would be disfellowshipped for stirring dissent, not for merely holding a different opinion. When I was a Witness the BoE knew I disagreed with the explanation of the generation, aspects of the ransom, aspects of the issue of sovereignty, and quite a few other WT teachings. But I remained a Witness and kept my privileges.
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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Finkelstein, I agree. I hate religion.
wozza, aha, I hadn't noticed the "evidently". Thanks for pointing it out.
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Evidence of WT bad intent - How they handled changing the meaning of "porneia"
by AlainAlam insorry, long post :) i'm considering evidence that at least at some point, the gb/watchtower had bad intentions.
i would like to share the following: *** w74 11/15 p. 703 questions from readers ***do lewd practices on the part of a married person toward that one’s own mate constitute a scriptural basis for the offended mate to get a divorce?there are times when lewd practices within the marriage arrangement would provide a basis for a scriptural divorce.. based on this, some jw chose to divorce.
but then:*** w83 3/15 p. 30 honor godly marriage!
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waton, by "sincere, young couples" you means couples where one of them had divorced based on the old definition of porneia?
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How can I change my avatar?
by AlainAlam inon my profile, under "update avatar", i click on "upload avatar image" and choose the picture i want, but it doesn't work.
i know it says there may be a slight delay but i've been waiting for more than 12 hours so i'm wondering if there's something wrong with the site, or if i'm missing something..
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Hello again Simon/everyone :) Do you think the avatar thing can be fixed in any way? I can also just remove the avatar altogether.
I'm asking because this is a picture of me and my ex-wife, who is still a Witness. I'm sure she wouldn't want her pic on this website and I feel bad posting stuff in the meanwhile. It's not just for aesthetics :) Thank you for your efforts!