I never could understand this stupid practice of turning in your time of how many hours you have preaching, hell sakes God knows is that not sufficient? I believe its one more way of mind control.
Again surely God know who have been naughty or nice marking his list and marking it twice (as to who has talked to others ), its not anyone else business what others are doing in this regard. Shane
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by Shane ini never could understand this stupid practice of turning in your time of how many hours you have preaching, hell sakes god knows is that not sufficient?
i believe its one more way of mind control.. again surely god know who have been naughty or nice marking his list and marking it twice (as to who has talked to others ), its not anyone else business what others are doing in this regard.
shane
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most embarrasing thing ever at a meeting ...
by alliwannadoislive inhey ... i'm just getting into the swing of this great 'apostasy' thing right ... ?
... i thought y'all out there might well have a story or two to tell, so ... plz tell me tell me tell me about the most embarrasing thing you ever saw at a meeting ...
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Ok I will humor you on taking a break away from the serious stuff.
Truth is stranger than fiction:
I was about eighteen years old and was asked to aid in baptizing the friends in the pool at an assembly, I think because I was so buff no cause I am worthy; Anyway I get in the water and the water is warm OK I was a young vibrant guy, I dunked a few sisters and their skin was so smooth in that water and the water was warm like I said, picture this lots of folks are standing all around the sides OK And all of the sudden my Johnson gets into the act, and I am praying to Jah that it will just stay asleep but it wont. I would could bring my self to dunk anymore people at all with my Johnson waking up, ( of note I wish it was like that now, sob sob ). so I backed off way off, and the other brothers who were doing the dunking said come on help us brother" I just shook my head NO finally an older brother came over and looked at me inn the yes and seen tears were falling down mychecks, and said its the warm water isn't it, I nodded yes, so he summoned a towel for meto drape around my self, and I proceeded to remove my self from the pool area, in totaldisgrace. Later the other younger brothers near my age who was aiding those beingbaptized inn the water jeered me and mocked me inn the presents of this older brother, andhe came up to them and grabbed one of them and threatened one of them, and said lestways he got out of the pool you assholes. Now that's my story and im sticky to it. !! Shane -
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Paying for Witness literature
by Shane init seems that its only here in the good old us of a that the jw's act like they are not paying for the books magazines and so forth, simply because of tax's.
what's my point?
its this: i never thought that true religion should ever charge for books and all the other, if its really gods true group then he will pay for it, is that stupid?
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I am disgusted by the very idea of paying for anything religious, by a religion. I am familiar with a religion that is one of the most richest in the nation, and they want ten percent tithing then charge ridiculous amounts for their literature. If money is no issue to anyone then fine yeah lets pay for magazines, flyers anything religions that they want. But", to most people money is an issue, it was with me while raising my kids, and the Witness's wanted my time and my money to do what they call Gods holly work, well if its that holly it is with in his power to take care of. ~ Shane
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most embarrasing thing ever at a meeting ...
by alliwannadoislive inhey ... i'm just getting into the swing of this great 'apostasy' thing right ... ?
... i thought y'all out there might well have a story or two to tell, so ... plz tell me tell me tell me about the most embarrasing thing you ever saw at a meeting ...
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Ok I will humor you on taking a break away from the serious stuff.
Truth is stranger than fiction:
I was about eighteen years old and was asked to aid in baptizing the friends in the pool at an assembly, I think because I was so buff no cause I am worthy; Anyway I get in the water and the water is warm OK I was a young vibrant guy, I dunked a few sisters and their skin was so smooth in that water and the water was warm like I said, picture this lots of folks are standing all around the sides OK And all of the sudden my Johnson gets into the act, and I am praying to Jah that it will just stay asleep but it wont. I would could bring my self to dunk anymore people at all with my Johnson waking up, ( of note I wish it was like that now, sob sob ). so I backed off way off, and the other brothers who were doing the dunking said come on help us brother" I just shook my head NO finally an older brother came over and looked at me inn the yes and seen tears were falling down my checks, and said its the warm water isn't it, I nodded yes, so he summoned a towel for me to drape around my self, and I proceeded to remove my self from the pool area, in total disgrace. Later the other younger brothers near my age who was aiding those being baptized inn the water jeered me and mocked me inn the presents of this older brother, and he came up to them and grabbed one of them and threatened one of them, and said lest ways he got out of the pool you assholes. Now that's The Truth !! Shane -
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Could you please read this?
by ethan inthis may take a while to explain, but if you read through and respond i'd appreciate it.
i became best friends with a jw about two years ago.
we were the best of friends.
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Witness' could have a force for good, but their mind control and efforts to break families apart make them a very dangerous group for the family unit, which should be very important to all of us.
You have to march to the tune of the governing body their modern day seers who are not very good at seeing anything, don't hold your breath on what they foretell trust me.
they think that by not doing holidays God is happy, but they ignore the more important things like love of fellow sinners, their love is making their life worse by shunning them and expecting you to do it or else you will shunned too.
To most witness's unless they have had this practice thrust upon them they have no idea of what it is like, cause they do a good job of getting you to lose all your friends but the Witness's. There are a few sick members who feel that they deserve this treatment, and that's the only way to atone for their sins, I pity them.
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do you jw's really have the truth ?
by skeptical 1 ini am interested in knowing why you jw's seem so sure you have the truth?
are you just brainwashed or do you really have the facts to back up your claims?
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I had to be disfellowshiped before I felt it OK to ask questions, many of them will never be answered properly, but now I am not afraid to ask them whereas before I was. Maybe its because I had came so close to dying three times the past six years, in a sense I have seen death in the face and its not that scary anymore. My fear was mostly based on the fear of Armageddon. I did not have a good wholesome love for God as a Witness, it was morbid fear with Armageddon just around the corner. So with death not being that scary anymore the Witness's don't have much power over me like they did. Their whole premise of teaching is based on fear rather than "love" mostly fear of man then a morbid fear of God.
I have said NO to blood valiantly as a good Witness, but no one shook my hand, and said God loves you for that, and I head no voice in heaven say this is my son, I am proud of him even though I almost died. Sense that time I have lost my wife to a so called brother, and had that so called brother try to sexually abuse my twelve year old daughter, been shone no mercy by the elders for transgressing when a sister showed me kindness and it lead to making love to her after all this happened to me. I know there is a God, and he is using the Internet to expose stupidity in the Witness's, I was raised one, but not allowed to think like a free man and I resent that now.
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Judicial Elder wisdom LOL
by Shane ini got to go into the star chamber a few years ago, i remember when the elders handling the my case told me and they all seemed to be in agreement with stupid remark: " now bro., i want you to go out and do everything you always wanted to do, and get it out of your system before you come back to us wanting reinstatement!
i was disgusted, i said: wait just a dam min your all supposed to encourage me not to sin and guide me inn ways of righteousness, instead your telling me to go out and sin?
i then said: "something's not right here, if there is a god someone will pay one day for mistreating one of his sheep.. question friends has anyone ever had the borg mp's ever say that to you?
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It is my consensus that Elders say stupid things like that cause it all goes to their heads, men were not supposed to be lords and masters over us spiritually speaking. I am sure there is some of them that don't do that, but some are like bulls in a China closet. I still believe in God almighty very much, I feel that one day I will know the true secrets of my soul from God him self somehow. I remember the words of Jesus or Lord: " happy are those conscious of their spiritual need cause it will be filled", and happy are those being hurt for righteousness sack, for the kingdom of the heavens belongs to such like ones. ~ Shane
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Family and its importance
by Shane indisfellowshiping or ex-comunication puts great strain on family members, it has been successfully used by other religious groups jehovah's witness's are no exception.
any group or government that can successfully put a wedge between family members is a threat to the whole family of man.. by using such phrases or reasons as: its for their own good or its being done cause we love them, or we wakening them to their senses, are simply rationalizing their actions.. think about this: monkeys shun at times one of their own, but the one shunned most of the time dies from it; are we higher than monkeys in love?
humans also die if shunned or become mentally sick depressed to the point of at times taking their own life, because if one has been a witness or other shunning group for all or most of their life who is now a support group for them?
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HI THERE I, AM, THE BROTHER OF SHANE, [MY COMMENTS ABOVE] IT HAS COME CLEAR TO ME THAT. THE BEATEN DOWN DF'D ONES NEED TO SQUEAK UP. EVEN IF UNLIKE MYSELF THEY FEEL THAT THEY WERE WRONG AND NEEDED TO BE PUNISHED. IT IS SIMPLY ABUSE AND WRONG IN EVERY WAY. IT IS AMAZING TO ME HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW OF JW'S BUT ARE surprised TO FIND OUT HOW THEY CAN CONTROL OTHERS TO TREAT THERE OWN FAMILY MEMBERS SO TERRIBLE.
I TELL EVERYONE WHAT HAPPENS TO FAMILY AND WHAT MEMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO DO TO THERE FATHERS, MOTHERS, CHILDREN, ECT. BY THE CULT MASTERS [JW'S] IT IS TIME TO PUT THE LIGHT OF PUBLIC OPINION ON THIS ORGANIZATION AND THIS PRACTICE OF SHUNNING. WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO PUT THERE FAMILY IN HARMS WAY
BY STUDYING OR JOINING SUCH SICK HEARTLESS GROUP.PUT THE INFORMATION OUT EVERY CHANCE YOU CAN. LET THE WORLD KNOW AND MAYBE PUBLIC OPINION WILL SHAKE OUR OWN FAMILY'S HEADS TO REALITY AND SEE THEY ARE CONTROLLED DOWN TO BEING TOLD HOW AND WHEN TO LOVE THERE OWN. [what next a
cup of poison punch---- Jones town did happen]. the familys that continue to shun in this practice are resonsible for the damage and pain. they CANNOT HIDE BEHIND THE GROUP ANY LONGER, THIS IS ABUSE ! PURE AND SIMPLE. AND AGAINST EVERY CULTURE ON THE EARTH. MAKE THE FAMILY TURN ON EACH OTHER. YOU CAN MAKE THEN DO ANYTHING.
[worked for hitler]THANK YOU
THE TRAVELER
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Judicial Elder wisdom LOL
by Shane ini got to go into the star chamber a few years ago, i remember when the elders handling the my case told me and they all seemed to be in agreement with stupid remark: " now bro., i want you to go out and do everything you always wanted to do, and get it out of your system before you come back to us wanting reinstatement!
i was disgusted, i said: wait just a dam min your all supposed to encourage me not to sin and guide me inn ways of righteousness, instead your telling me to go out and sin?
i then said: "something's not right here, if there is a god someone will pay one day for mistreating one of his sheep.. question friends has anyone ever had the borg mp's ever say that to you?
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I got to go into the star chamber a few years ago, I remember when the elders handling the my case told me and they all seemed to be in agreement with stupid remark: " Now Bro., I want you to go out and do everything you always wanted to do, and get it out of your system before you come back to us wanting reinstatement! I was disgusted, I said: Wait just a dam min your all supposed to encourage me not to sin and guide me inn ways of righteousness, instead your telling me to go out and sin? I then said: "something's not right here, if there is a God someone will pay one day for mistreating one of his sheep.
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Divorce Policy of JWs
by Ray Skyhorse ini have a general question about the policy of divorce.
i'm a not a jw.
can anybody get a divorce?
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You aint just singing Dixie, they do make it up as they go most of them anyway.
My ex-dumped my sorry ass after a major injury when I fell from a roof she said you changed too much," stupid bitch, if she had twenty percent of her brain smashed she would be weepy too.
Basically she told me that I admitted to not knowing for sure if I committed adultery one time, which is true, but I did not do it, I was exstreamly depressed at the time, clinical depression and was very confused. So when the time was right out goes the cone head that fell on his head and got seizures and crys all the time. the elders went along with the whole thing as well as anointed one who became her new mother in law.
OH don't you just love Gods clean organization, what a farce.
Shane