Darn it! I'll be in Vegas in May (18-21). But I'll be sure to have some extra little fun in honor of all of you! ;)
ShaunaC
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1st Annual Convention....
by TR in...of "the lost that have been found"(tlthbf).
my wife and i are planning to go to vegas in june.
we could skip the convention and just have some fun!.
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Tolerance
by Esmeralda inafter observing a couple of the current threads on this board, i thought that i'd throw this.
issue out there to see what people think.
i'm really curious.. has it been your experience that people who were jehovah's witnesses in the past tend to carry.
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ShaunaC
Essie, I read over the posts today and thought you handled yourself quite admirably. I totally concur with your thoughts of tolerance.
The statement earlier made that an opinion should only be respected if it is based on fact blows me away (& I mean opinions that don't harm anyone). To me, an opinion means there are no facts to substantiate it. Thus you go by what you feel to be true.
If you challenge me on fact, I'm thankful. I want to have my facts straight. But don't challenge me on opinion! You have no right to enforce your view on me! If I wanted to be around those kind of people, I would have remained a JW!
I guess the problem arises when people have different views of what a true fact is. However it happens, there is no reason to insist that your view is the right way and should be subscribed to by everyone else. Why can't we just say, "That's intersting you feel that way. In my experience......" Why does it have to be "You're an idiot if you think that way. My way is better!"
In the words of a famous Cali man "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!"
Shauna
Shauna
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ShaunaC
LOL@JoelBear That was too funny! I love #3, I remember doing that as well. But my absolute favorite is #6, moving the microphone away so they would have to lean way forward! ROTFLMAO! That's just too hilarious!
Momoftwo, first of welcome! Second of all........eeeeeewwwwwwwwww!
Shauna
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Did Christ exist?
by uncle_onion injesus christ is the main feature of christianity.
what proof is there of him existing?
we touched on this subject on the the last thread that i started, but i would appreciate in depth veiw points and "evidence" please.
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ShaunaC
JanH, Just wanted to apologize if I took you wrong earlier. I forget you are from another part of the world and probably didn't mean to come across as you did, or I mean as I took it.
Please no bad feelings. I've been told you are quite an expert on history. I'd appreciate anything you could teach me. Just here to learn.
Thanks,
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Did Christ exist?
by uncle_onion injesus christ is the main feature of christianity.
what proof is there of him existing?
we touched on this subject on the the last thread that i started, but i would appreciate in depth veiw points and "evidence" please.
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ShaunaC
Jan, please don't condescend to me. That's not what I'm here for. I told you I was just relating what I saw. If I'm not allowed to do that or even put stuff out that's flip-flopping in my head without being told that I'm essentially an idiot, then perhaps I'll just keep my thoughts to myself.
And...putting a smiley face at the end of your sentence really doesn't cut it. If you were indeed just teasing, then I apologize for coming back at you like this, but you might want to learn some tact, especially with people who don't know you.
Shauna (who apologizes for any offense or stupidity)
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Did Christ exist?
by uncle_onion injesus christ is the main feature of christianity.
what proof is there of him existing?
we touched on this subject on the the last thread that i started, but i would appreciate in depth veiw points and "evidence" please.
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ShaunaC
Hi Tina! My point about the miracles was that they really weren't miracles at all. There are other explanations, I noted just one. Of course, these were exagerated upon and shown to be a sign that Jesus was from God.
Jan...sorry, but I recall Jesus being 33 1/2 years old when he died. I agree that 40 was probably too high. I was just providing a span. Now if you want to say that the Bible is completely inaccurate in saying that anyone including Jesus could have lived to 33 1/2 years old or beyond, no problem with me. I am quickly arriving at the thinking that the Bible is just full of myths & parables anyway. If the Bible is so wrong on this minor point, it's no big surprise...I consider it wrong on a whole hosts of things more important.
Makes no difference to me. Just relating what I saw! SORRY!
Shauna
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THE TEST WAS POSITIVE
by LDH ini am preggers.. just left the doctor's office and my hubby's office.
i dropped the little plastic thing-a-ma-jig off, and he said, "what's this?
are you pregnant?!?!?!?".
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ShaunaC
Let me be the first to say CONGRATS! I hope you guys are happy about the impending bundle of joy......and no sleep, stinky diapers, college tuition (now that you're not an active JW you gotta think about that kind of stuff).
Truly, I'm so happy for you!!! But I'm a little pissed we can't go get drunk off our asses before I move.
Lunch this week?
Shauna
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Did Christ exist?
by uncle_onion injesus christ is the main feature of christianity.
what proof is there of him existing?
we touched on this subject on the the last thread that i started, but i would appreciate in depth veiw points and "evidence" please.
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ShaunaC
I watched a fascinating program on the man Jesus about a year ago on TV. While I don't discount that he truly existed, I am coming to the realization that he was probably just another man among many who led a revolt against the Roman Empire.
You have to remember that life for the Jews was simply unbearable under Roman rule. They were, for all intents & purposes, like slaves. Their life expentancy was only about 30-40 years, mainly due to the harsh conditions of working in the fields. On the other hand, the average life of a Roman was considerably longer, about 65-70 years.
The Jews occasionally had someone rise up who wanted to lead a revolt againt the oppression of the Romans. Jesus was more likely just one of many. However he did stand out due to the fact that ancient writings seemed to be fulfilling in him. With people so oppressed and ready for any kind of deliverance, they attached on to Jesus as their Messiah.
Some intersting ideas & points...
Much faith was put into Jesus as the Deliverer from God because he seemed to be fulfilling so much written in the OT. Of one I particularly remember was Jesus riding in on the ass with palm branches. Uuummmm, duh, it was Passover! Palm branches were a part of the celebration, it had nothing to do with Jesus coming into town. Too, there was probably only a handful of followers with him, not a great crowd.
I did find it intersting that even scientists don't discount the miracles, which Christians often point to as proof Jesus was from God. Again you have to remember how oppressed these people really were. 2000 years later we know perfectly well how the mind can control pain and can even go as far as curing our ailments. Could it not be possible that for someone who wanted to believe so badly that Jesus was their Messiah, that they would end up healing themselves out of extreme faith?
Another thought is that people always point to Josephus to prove that Jesus was a real person. But did you know that out of all the writings of Josephus, the mentions of Jesus are relatively few. If he was such a mover & shaker, don't you think it would have been more of a focus? Or could it be that he was just another guy causing some commotion?
I don't think there is much doubt that there was a man named Jesus that lived 2000 years ago. Was he what the Bible portrays him to be? Why is his story so oddly similar to those in other cultures? Could he have been the basis for the others? Not really, maybe he was later created in such a grandious fashion after the stories of others. Could it all be made up as a tool to control the masses by hysteria and a hope like that of the oppressed Jews...a Messiah & Deliverer from the increasingly bad world?
We know for a fact that 6 million people in the world right now are being mislead. What am I talking about! As far as I'm concerned all religion is a crock, a snare & a racket, a tool to control the people, the opium of the masses, so there are billions being duped! Is it so hard to believe, with man so yearning for understanding of his existence and where he is going, that mankind has been mislead for centuries by all forms of religion?
Good question! Unfortunately....not so easy to answer!
Shauna
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Special assembly day
by comment ini attended a local special assembly day yesterday.
didn't seem like too much had changed overall.
however, i've got some questions.. 1) when did the society decide to revert to allowing witnesses to study more than one book with their bible studies?
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ShaunaC
Thanks J.C. for the info. Sure wish I had that arrangement when I was busting my ass to pioneer. I remember all to well those days of getting up at 6:00 a.m. to start by 7:00. Meet up with the group at 9:00. Work through lunch. Meet at 1:00. Continue till we met up again at 6:00 pm. And go till 9:00 at night! ALl of that in the midst of summer with 110 degree weather!!!
I'm just thankful that despite all that time, I don't have to live with the guilt of ever bringing anyone into the WT. Whew!
Thanks again!
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Special assembly day
by comment ini attended a local special assembly day yesterday.
didn't seem like too much had changed overall.
however, i've got some questions.. 1) when did the society decide to revert to allowing witnesses to study more than one book with their bible studies?
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ShaunaC
Path,
I foretold for years(ooohhh maybe I'm a prophet like MDS & don't know it) that the WT would have to reduce the regular pioneer hourly requirement or there would be no pioneers left after awhile. I remember hearing about them finally making the change last year (maybe the previous) but don't remember what it was changed to. Help me out?
Thanks, Shauna