after fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.
the bad.
it is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings.
Wow! Sounds like you have had a very successful fade. If I remember right, your wife is also awake. Are your kids awake?
I am happy for you, but oh so jealous. I am coming up on a year of fading, but in the last 5 months pretty much every thing has gone wrong. I don't know what's gonna happen. I suck at this and the mental strain is taking its toll.
If you can give more details in your strategies, I would be grateful. Or PM me.
i am not sure how the wt does it or what technology is used.
but when i look at the jw.org website and look at pictures in the recent publications from the lord's evening meal / last supper, it seems very strange.. i turn on my tv, put on 3-d glasses and the apostles now appear to be current and former members of the governing body.. i turn the tv off, restart it, and it appears to be the same members but now they have changed seats.. very interesting.. rub a dub.
Thanks for the clarification. I guess my extremely hopeful thinking caused me to be duped.....once again🙁
i am not sure how the wt does it or what technology is used.
but when i look at the jw.org website and look at pictures in the recent publications from the lord's evening meal / last supper, it seems very strange.. i turn on my tv, put on 3-d glasses and the apostles now appear to be current and former members of the governing body.. i turn the tv off, restart it, and it appears to be the same members but now they have changed seats.. very interesting.. rub a dub.
Are you serious? Can you please give more specifics? What videos are you referencing? I am desperate for my spouse to see this. If it's true, this could be crucial to "waking up" loved ones.
every single bible student/jehovah's witness who has ever lived, has been indoctrinated to believe that a catastrophic great tribulation would very soon engulf the entire earth, causing untold death & destruction.
this spurious teaching is drummed into every j.w.
's head and used by them as a major recruitment tool.
Thanks for this. Very nicely put together. I'll be filing this away for a rainy day.
so my wife is really nervous about having lunch with her mother today.
she is an über-dub who is always asking probing questions as to our spirituality.
i think she knows that we are fading out.
There are 3 options with a nosey JW mom (I have one):
1. Lie
2. Tell the truth
3. Avoid (physically, verbally or a combination thereof)
All of the above carry consequences, so she will have to decide which consequence she can live with. If she isn't clear on a strategy yet, then I would strongly recommend cancelling or postponing lunch. Mothers have a way of getting to their daughters in a core shaking way. 😉
been a lot of death in my life recently.
a close family member died yesterday.
a close friend died 8 weeks ago - both from cancer.
Thank you for sharing your feelings.
I am so sorry for you, losing your loved ones is infinitely painful. My condolences.
Cancer sucks. I watched, helplessly, two of my favorite people suffer and die of cancer.
i was going through my copy of steve hassan's combating cult mind control and it occurred to me that it would be great to have something like this specifically for us ex jehovah's witnesses.
while this is a great book, the examples he uses are mostly from people that were moonies, as steve is a former moonie and many people that have contacted him for help were relatives of moonies.
while cults all work basically the same, it would be nice to be have some ideas on things that are specific to jehovah's witnesses.
Thanks LisaRose! Nice points to consider.
according to my elder in law, by next year the number of dc/rc's will increase by 143. the size of conventions will get smaller.
the elder in law says the goal is to make them all have around 2,000 or so at each.
they are going to make more manuals detailing each job and it's responsibilities.
If they cut it to 2 days, they could even hold 2 RCs per weekend...Friday/Saturday and Sunday/Monday.
They could reduce set up time and cost of venues and rake in 2 weekends worth of cash in one.
Arghhh..did I just give them a good idea...?
it was a shock despite us being divorced for over 40 years.
my son from that marriage phoned me with the news of sandra's death a couple of days ago, followed by my daughter.. sandra was one of 5 siblings.
the other 4 are still jw's.
I am sorry for your loss. It is very good of you to attend the service. Though you are not attending only for the support of your children, they will feel your love for them and their mother all the more so. 🌹
i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
I read here because I like to keep up with what's happening in JW land. I am working on a fade and trying to plant seeds to wake up a couple people in the meantime. I find a lot of good ideas for that here by just reading.
Though I am a believer, I don't really have things worked out for myself yet. Therefore, I have little desire to debate. Actions speak louder than words. I find there are many ways IRL to testify--primarily showing love, letting my light shine. I know, to some, that may sound corny, but in my life this has been the key that unlocked everything for me. God is love.
So when I do enter discussions here, it's to talk about JW stuff or offer support to someone. I do not seek theological or philosophical discussions here.
