i've noticed that within the past couple of decades, i don't see a lot of interracial relationships (ir, for short) in the org.. i, myself, was involved in an ir over 2-3 decades ago and was engaged to get married [my ethnicity is: african-american and latina; my ex-fiance's ethnicity is: scottish and italian].
he broke off the engagement, after three years of friendship and two years of dating, because his uncle and another brother (who was a temporary volunteer at bethel) pressured him to end our relationship [p.s.
: his mother was quite close to my mother, one of my sisters and one of my close cousins.
I am in one and I have seen a lot of IR marriages in JW land and it has not been an issue. Of course, we are west of the Mississippi....
Almost 2 decades ago, I visited the Deep South (USA) and I was shocked by the undercurrent of racial prejudice. So I'm sure geography plays a part.
so my wife is really nervous about having lunch with her mother today.
she is an über-dub who is always asking probing questions as to our spirituality.
i think she knows that we are fading out.
@ Dark Knight
So how did lunch with Mother go for your wife?
so i went to the convention this past weekend.
not, because i wanted to....but, because i had no choice.. i took myself and our son's out walking every chance i had, i made it so we missed the bunker video, the drama, the stupid dream squashing video with the violin.. but, while in there sitting.
one of the speakers said this:.
Marked
after fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.
the bad.
it is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings.
Wow! Sounds like you have had a very successful fade. If I remember right, your wife is also awake. Are your kids awake?
I am happy for you, but oh so jealous. I am coming up on a year of fading, but in the last 5 months pretty much every thing has gone wrong. I don't know what's gonna happen. I suck at this and the mental strain is taking its toll.
If you can give more details in your strategies, I would be grateful. Or PM me.
i am not sure how the wt does it or what technology is used.
but when i look at the jw.org website and look at pictures in the recent publications from the lord's evening meal / last supper, it seems very strange.. i turn on my tv, put on 3-d glasses and the apostles now appear to be current and former members of the governing body.. i turn the tv off, restart it, and it appears to be the same members but now they have changed seats.. very interesting.. rub a dub.
Thanks for the clarification. I guess my extremely hopeful thinking caused me to be duped.....once again🙁
i am not sure how the wt does it or what technology is used.
but when i look at the jw.org website and look at pictures in the recent publications from the lord's evening meal / last supper, it seems very strange.. i turn on my tv, put on 3-d glasses and the apostles now appear to be current and former members of the governing body.. i turn the tv off, restart it, and it appears to be the same members but now they have changed seats.. very interesting.. rub a dub.
Are you serious? Can you please give more specifics? What videos are you referencing? I am desperate for my spouse to see this. If it's true, this could be crucial to "waking up" loved ones.
every single bible student/jehovah's witness who has ever lived, has been indoctrinated to believe that a catastrophic great tribulation would very soon engulf the entire earth, causing untold death & destruction.
this spurious teaching is drummed into every j.w.
's head and used by them as a major recruitment tool.
Thanks for this. Very nicely put together. I'll be filing this away for a rainy day.
so my wife is really nervous about having lunch with her mother today.
she is an über-dub who is always asking probing questions as to our spirituality.
i think she knows that we are fading out.
There are 3 options with a nosey JW mom (I have one):
1. Lie
2. Tell the truth
3. Avoid (physically, verbally or a combination thereof)
All of the above carry consequences, so she will have to decide which consequence she can live with. If she isn't clear on a strategy yet, then I would strongly recommend cancelling or postponing lunch. Mothers have a way of getting to their daughters in a core shaking way. 😉
been a lot of death in my life recently.
a close family member died yesterday.
a close friend died 8 weeks ago - both from cancer.
Thank you for sharing your feelings.
I am so sorry for you, losing your loved ones is infinitely painful. My condolences.
Cancer sucks. I watched, helplessly, two of my favorite people suffer and die of cancer.
i was going through my copy of steve hassan's combating cult mind control and it occurred to me that it would be great to have something like this specifically for us ex jehovah's witnesses.
while this is a great book, the examples he uses are mostly from people that were moonies, as steve is a former moonie and many people that have contacted him for help were relatives of moonies.
while cults all work basically the same, it would be nice to be have some ideas on things that are specific to jehovah's witnesses.
Thanks LisaRose! Nice points to consider.
