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  No inetrest in Watchtower & Awake?

  by Ardian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.

  i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

  i have seen the link on many social media networks.

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  Jofi_Wofo

  "This magazine is published by a reputable agency Jehovah’s Witnesses. "

  
  

  https://media3.giphy.com/media/Qsfs5FJCoZqmI5G8UF/giphy.gif
  
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  Misheard song lyrics

  by jhine in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i thought that as there seems to have been some very serious sh-stuff being discussed lately maybe a light hearted thread might be in order .

  i was thinking about misheard song lyrics ( climb every woman ) and it seemed a good topic for a thread .to start off for many years l thought that fat boy slim was singing about some very posh shoes with funk soul rubber on the bottom .

  has anyone else realised that they have been singing the wrong words ?

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  Taylor Swift's "Blank Space" has one of the most famous misheard lines in all of history.

  Misheard: "All the lonely Starbucks lovers."

  Actual: "Got a long list of ex-lovers"

  I like this one because I think that the misheard line still fits in perfectly with the song, is catchy, and even a bit clever. It's even an amphiboly: are "lonely Starbucks lovers" romantic partners in failing relationships who meet up at coffee shops, or are they hopeless romantics who dream of falling on love while sitting alone in coffee shops?
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  Meeting Workbook - I am your inheritance - April 5-11

  by JWTom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  similar to the bethelites being dismissed topic for march/april 2020 is the article for april 5-11 related to the idea "if you just do what jw.org says....then someone is going to slide cash under your door and it will all be good related to your future finances" (link below).. i know current jws that believe this and have pimi family that believe this.

  they believe these even though they have endlessly challenging finances even struggling to pay bills.

  the reality is that anyone struggling financially as a jw is going to be in a state of poverty just trying to survive.

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  I'm extremely grateful that I had a more balanced view of education and finances than most of my fellow congregants, despite their condescending protests. I regret that I spent all that time preaching instead of taking extra weekend hours to better stack my retirement account, but after reading so many other anecdotes, I can take solace in how much worse it could have been for me.

  JW finances work as such:

  If you're well off- Jehovah is blessing you with abundance. You should pioneer.

  If you're poor, but getting by- Jehovah is blessing you with sustainance. You should pioneer.

  If you're destitute- Jehovah is blessing you with endurance. You should pioneer.

  If you starve to death- Jehovah is blessing your surviving relatives with the ability to cope. They should pioneer.
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  So what have the rank and file been saying now that a vaccine is being given. What happened to Armageddon

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a vaccine is here!!!

  the light at the end of the tunnel is visible!!!

  so what happened to armageddon?.

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  At least in my wife's congregation, they've established an out. Yes, if COVID-19 gets worse, it means the end is coming! But if things get better... it means that the end is coming!!!!

  The reasoning?

  Well, it's going to happen at a time "when you least expect it", which means that things have to be so good so that nobody will be expecting it.

  Let's review. If times are bad, it's proof that the end is near. If times are good, it's proof that the end is near.

  Also, if you don't see that this is the truth, then you are deliberately ignorant.
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  My new definition of cult.

  by Yomama in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forcing someone to believe something that is untrure and shunning them if they do not believe it.

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  Ok, but I think we're doing this backwards. Starting with a religion we don't like, then using that religion as a model for our definition of a cult.

  WT pulls the same trick, but to its own favor. Whenever any of its publications describe how to find the true religion- gee golly gosh don't ya know- it just so happens to lead right to the doorstep of a Kingdom Hall. Who would have thunk it???
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  Watchtower Study July 2020 ''Be Convinced That You Have the Truth''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | july 2020.

  6. the first-century disciples built their faith on their knowledge of the scriptures and the teachings of jesus christ, that is, “the truth of the good news.” (gal.

  2:5) this truth consists of the whole body of christian teachings, including the facts about jesus’ ransom sacrifice and his resurrection.

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  The fact that WT says "be convinced" as opposed to "here's our evidence" is the tl;dr for the whole religion.
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  AM3: Scare your kids into the truth

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anthony morris iii on the 12/20 broadcast:.

  parents need to give their children a realistic idea of what we will face in the near future.. .

  .many parents choose to help their children appreciate the graphic visual imagery of a bible-based account while at the same time building trust in jehovah.

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  Ay, ay, ay...

  What does it say about a religion when it calls itself "the truth," but dedicates a many times greater amount of its resources towards terrifying vulnerable people than convincing rational people.
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  Why is the Watchtower "soft" on China?

  by Sad-u-see in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's see, wt is "banned" in china.

  the wt preaches that reaching everyone on the planet is so important, yet they barely have a footprint in china.

  if saving lives was so important, why do they not aggressively proselytize in china?

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  There's a comically obvious level of ethnocentrism in the WT interpretation of Bible prophesy. Europe and USA are hugely important, but not a peep can be found about Africa, South America, Polynesia or Asia (the four of which, collectively, are home to the majority of the world's population but by some stunning coincidence, not a single member of the Governing Body).
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  Dumb Elders

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i knew a few pretty intelligent elders .

  sometimes i would wonder why they remained as elders or even witnesses because they were successful men who made a good living and were highly respected because of their qualities.. that is a rather small group.

  most elders that i know of aren’t the brightest bulbs in the sky.

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  I've known some smart elders, but like just about anybody on earth, they were smart on some things but dumb on other things. Of course, we were all dumb to accept the nonsense that the JW religion expected us to believe, and the absurd direction we blindly followed.

  Some posters above have made some great points RE: born-in elders vs. converts. I was not a born-in, but I came in as a teen. I found that the born-in elders were much more likely to think of spirituality as equating to compliance at all costs, whereas the non-born-ins were more likely to emphasize spirituality as the ability to perceive Jehovah's thinking and make decisions based on principles rather than rigid rules. Born-ins always needed to consult a publication or someone with higher status before doing ANYTHING about ANYTHING.

  In my congregation, most elders were born in and that is probably why I was never appointed as an elder myself. Sure, they liked me and had glowing things to say about me, but they were hesitant to appoint someone who thought too much outside of the box, questioned things, disagreed with things, and didn't pretend to be happy when he was having a rough time.

  Unfortunately, all that "humility" wound up rubbing off on me in certain notable ways. One particular time, I asked an elder a question about grooming, to see what his opinion was before I made a change to my hairstyle. Not because I thought anything I was doing was wrong, but because it's often times extremely difficult for someone who is not born in to figure out what the congregation around you will find offensive. It seems that born-ins all have this innate sense about what all the unwritten rules are. Those who weren't raised in the religion, even if they've been in it for a decade or more, just have to tip-toe around the minefield of perpetual offense-taking by the born-ins.
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  Answer to Robert Luccioni's Lies and Misrepresentations

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here is the video, "strengthen your core" by robert luccioni.

  https://href.li/https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodpgmevtmorningworship/pub-jwb_202011_11_video.

  here is the response by jason wynne .

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  Jofi_Wofo

  They'll never read it.

  I don't support criminal activity in any way, but I think the only way anybody who matters in the JW organization would hear it would be if someone hacked the morning worship sound system and played it over the speakers.

  Again- I don't support anyone actually doing this!

  But... I can't say I'd feel bad for anyone at Bethel if it actually happened one day. Imagine the HORROR of thousands of Bethelites having to listen to *GASP* a different opinion that is *GASP* supported by facts!