Quetzal

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  I am starting to think there is more to these riots than just some meets the eye.

  by phoenixrising in

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  the fake news wants us to believe that one cop who murdered one person sparked all this.

  i am seeing this crap in london and around the world.

  this does not make any sense.

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  Quetzal

  Did Obama give his speech about racism and inequality in America from his $15m mansion in Martha's Vineyard?
  

  What is your point?
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  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

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  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

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  Quetzal

  He's a grifter, wants other people to pay him a salary for his 'activism', so he has to put out regular content to justify it whether there's really anything to say or not.
  

  I see adds on this website. A brother has got to eat I suppose. Activism cost money.

  The moment Lloyd Evans monetized his activism was the moment he lost credibility.
  

  If some people benefit from his channel I don't see anything wrong with him making some change from it.

  I hate his nasty accent.
  

  Jealousy, at least he is doing something no matter his motivation !
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  Meet George Floyd

  by cofty in

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  his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

  thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

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  Quetzal

  The leaders of these people only care about cases they can use for political ends, that means a black corpse and white cop, regardless of situation and circumstances.
  

  @Simon - That is very true. If you take a closer look at all communities, you will find similarities of people taking advantage of a situation to further their own agenda.

  All you see of black people when BLM are involved are criminal thugs, looters and gangs of blacks beating individual white people (sometimes to death).
  

  That is a bit of an exaggeration. In the current situation, I see people of all races losing their minds and looting under the banner of BLM.

  The claims that black people are disproportionately impacted when the system isn't perfect? Totally unsupported by statistics.
  

  This statement is correct but it totally misses the point. It is not about statistics but about perception. The video footage of how the guy was killed made for uncomfortable viewing and it changes people's perception of reality. You are making a rational statement to an emotional situation.

  Remember the expression " De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est translates to "Of the dead nothing but good is to be said" or don't speak ill of the dead.

  There is the social taboo of speaking ill of the dead especially when it is so soon. Most people are aware of George Floyd not being a saint.

  Apparently mother Theresa was no saint but when she died, that wasn't the time to throw statistics on believers. The time for that came later.

  @Blues Broters put it nicely

  Only a naive person would believe wholeheartedly all the eulogies about him, but it is wrong to blacken his name with insults. What would it matter anyway? If he was the worst person on earth, does that justify police brutality and homicide?
  

  You have been making your point about the "glass is half full" and others are saying the "glass is half empty"
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

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  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  If the BLM protest brings about better policing in the US, I guess everyone stands to gain and not just members of the BLM.

  Similar to how the JW fought for their right to worship in the 20th century and it actually benefited other religious groups
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

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  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  They do want to say All Lives Matter
  

  I see your point. Maybe the problem is that when that statement is made, "All Lives Matter" it is often in answer to BLM which might be construed as trying to negate their movement.
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

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  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  Quetzal

  If white people pushed an agenda saying White Lives Matter
  

  Why would white people want to say that?
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  Meet George Floyd

  by cofty in

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  his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

  thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

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  @cofty

  Quetzal - White people feel no desire to defend white criminals, neither do Asians or other communities.

  Generalisation is the problem with this statement. There are many examples that show the contrary.

  @the girl next door

  Does dwelling on his faults justify his killing for some?
  

  That is a valid question that some will like to ignore.
  
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  5 More Letters Arrived as of 2020-06-04!

  by Atlantis in

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  5 more letters arrived today.

  1--2019-11-08-proposal to merge the congregation charity into the kingdom hall trust-------------------2--2019-11-information relating to the merger with the kingdom hall trust-------------------------.

  3--2020-01-minutes of meeting of the charity trustees-1.

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  Quetzal

  thanks
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  Meet George Floyd

  by cofty in

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  his murder was a crime and justice must be done, but it's sobering to learn more about the man who is being lionised by millions.

  thanks as always to the courageous candace owens.. ....

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  Quetzal

  She made some interesting points about glorifying a criminal but she lost me when she started to throw around statistics comparing Black/White deaths.

  If your child was shot by someone, the last thing you want to hear is, "Madam, do you know that what happened to your child has 1 in a million chance of happening in your street". In the eyes of a grieving mother, the stats are irrelevant.

  Her comments about the black community defending it's own is very true but I am not sure if she is right that other communities do not act in the same way.

  The the first Gulf way, America went to war in the middle east and some allies tagged along (The British) even when they knew the reason for the war was bogus. American's often say "you should support the troops" even if you don't believe in the war.

  Candace's claim that other communities do not support their own even when it is a bad decision is not factual. Everyone does it, it is almost human nature.

  That is why you get into a fight at school if someone calls your mother a "fat ugly whore". You already know that your mother is really a "fat ugly whore" but you still want to defend her. You didn't choose your mother and you would have preferred to have a "top model god fearing christian mother" but that is not the case.

  Candace started off well but lost her way towards the end. She comes across as knowledgeable but she misses the point.
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  Organized Rioting Across America Due To A Black Man’s Death

  by minimus in

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  cities across america have been pillaged and destroyed these last few days.

  a white policeman has been charged with murder of a black man.

  protests have been organized across major us cities and horrible riots have occurred.

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  Quetzal

  It goes much further than abolishing unions. How do you change culture?
  

  Is it really culture or capitalism. If you take one of the latin American countries, the largest producer of the white powder, you can hardly say it is their culture that they produce and distribute their merchandise to America. It is all about capitalism and excess greed.

  If you were to list most of the common problems in the world today, like human trafficking, wars, immigration, legal or illegal, prostitution, religion, charities etc, you will notice one common denominator. Capitalism -> Influence -> Power

  Some suggested that if the United States were to legalize all drugs, the price of drugs like cocaine will fall and the incentive to produce and export will all but disappear. This will solve the war on drugs and related violence but what impact will that have on the banking system and the economy as a whole?
  

  You cannot really solve it without creating another opening for someone else to take over.

  This reminds me of the JW organization that forbade people from fornicating. Your average JW found a loophole around that biblical command by going through the back door or practicing hand/mouth Job. When the org discovered this, it updated its policy to Porneia. That meant no more back door practice or grabbing someone by the p***y. Guess what your average JW started to do? "don't kiss and tell" and let the holy ghost snitch on you. (This is a really bad analogy but you get my point )

  My point is, when you try to fix something like racism, sexism or anything other societal issues, there is someone somewhere trying to undo your work

  There have been a lot of sincere people trying to fix these issues since the 17th century in America. There have been a lot of progress and there have also been a lot of resistance.

  It is a mistake to think that there is a simple solution to such a complex problem.