sorry for this matter has been already discussed.. i got shocked after watching this video:.
kingdom hall disaster demonstration.
this is really insane !!!
Is this bag different from the emergency "go" bag they've been telling people to have for a few years, in case persecution hits (and you have to flee to the bunker or whatever, I guess)?
Not having been to meetings in years I just heard about this last year. The JWs in my area think that when persecution hits you should be ready with your "go" bag. And I thought we were supposed to rely on God.....
i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
I am careful around the JWs just because of my mother, but once she is past the point of caring (sadly, she has dementia, which is a progressive thing) I won't care at all.
Funny thing, here locally the JWs just seem.....worn out. Everyone is older, has problems, is too poor (with all the fun that entails) to seem to care. I was really worried about this earlier, but not as much now. I'm not really trying to act like I'm doing anything, beyond taking my mom to meeting on Sundays. I read my tablet while I'm there, no one has noticed.
it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.
they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?
have others noticed this?.
Punk, I have noticed that. There do not seem to be any reasonable, middle of the road types here locally. Congregation has shrunk over 50% and what's left is the full-on, can't think for themselves cult types, that watch everyone else like a hawk. This congregation is a paranoid and desperate place. No surprise that these types can't seem to get or keep a job in the real world.
first of all, the wt tell this lie to the rank and file:.
two factors—which must coincide—result in the disfellowshipping of one of jehovah’s witnesses.
first, a baptized witness commits a serious sin.
@Vidiot, I totally agree: To prevent loyal JWs from learning the real reasons XJWs leave.
I think they are trying to delay the sharing of information across both sides as long as possible. Of course, that can't last forever.
my heart goes out for all people stuck in all high control groups, either with insight into the falsehood of their beliefs or none.. to remain a member whilst knowing it false however, must be soul destroying.. my question is, would you carry on living the lie if you discovered that we get one life, one go at existing.
it's short, it's fragile and nobody in 100 years will care we even existed..... .......if you came to that realisation would you quit?.
.......if you had children, would you leave in order to set them an example in strength and appreciation of the short time we enjoy?.
I am just around to take my mum to meeting, but if you were around me very much you'd have to know I no longer believe. Kinda a funny don't ask don't tell thing going on with a few of them.
Everyone here is so distracted by the mess their lives are in (really, I've never seen such a group of disfunctional people, by any standard) that no one cares. I'm only civil to keep peace and out of respect for some old friends. But, it's just something I am putting up with temporarily. If I had to really look and act like a JW, my brain would explode. I give anyone a lot of credit who is in that situation and is carrying it off.
as our fade continues, the wife and i have decided to take up "the forbidden practice of.......yoga"!!!!😱.
i was quite skeptical at first but so far it has really de-stressed our life in quite a spectacular way!!
not to mention the physical benefits.. anyone else try yoga or a similar discipline?
Anything that challenges their world view (ugh) will be - literally - demonized. If you go to yoga and calm down (unlike all the depressed ones in the congregation) and are able to think.... wait.... you might start questioning some things.... improving your life..... Nothing good can come of that, for them! It's all about control. Plus they are SO IGNORANT when they talk about yoga, like they think the demons will invade your brain the minute you go to class. I got rid of a few cult demon ideas in my head after going to yoga class. Yeah!
concise thoughts from the wtbts.
par.2) however, there are numerous situations for which the bible provides no specific command.. par.3) in the absence of specific laws, how can we know what choices will please jehovah?.
par.16) many matters could be decided one way or another, and jehovah would still be pleased.. .
Today's WT made my head hurt more than usual..... you can make personal decisions but be sure not to do ANYTHING that might cause ANYONE in the congregation to be upset. In other words, you have no personal decisions. You can't even decide what to think or what to wear if someone somewhere sometime might be upset.
Everyone at the KH thought it was so "wise". I couldn't believe how brainwashed they all are.
So, any upcoming "new" information about being able to grow a beard, for instance, will be compensated for by this article. Back to square one. You have no choices.
No wonder everyone is depressed around here!
i guess you are guaranteed to survive the "great tribulation" if you don't be a "kevin".
my family members are doubling down on their fervor about meeting attendance.
they are having an effect on some of my wishy washy long time inactive family.
@LostGeneration, apparently the JWs are asked to have an "emergency bag" ready so they can flee somewhere. I didn't know this but apparently this was proscribed for everyone a few years ago. That was when they insisted on getting everyone's "emergency information" including their medical information. Some congregations have been more strict about this than others. So, I wonder if the bunker video is just another step towards prepper-ism.
as our fade continues, the wife and i have decided to take up "the forbidden practice of.......yoga"!!!!😱.
i was quite skeptical at first but so far it has really de-stressed our life in quite a spectacular way!!
not to mention the physical benefits.. anyone else try yoga or a similar discipline?
I love yoga, it's the best thing for stress. I love my yoga group as well. I hate thinking about how many years I wasn't able to go, because I was always wanted to. The thing about Satan taking over your brain is just ridiculous.
most of us here have seen and experienced the judgmental attitude among jw's.
the pioneers look down on the publishers.
the appointed men look down on the non-appointed men.
@Introvert 2 I know a lot of elders wives who are having emotional problems. We have two here who are housebound (emotionally, not physically). They hardly ever leave the house much less pioneer. When will these people see reality?
