@Hecce - Interesting, because the foreign language congos I know of, at this point, are doing better than the English speaking congregations. But, they sometimes get short shrift at the halls....
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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@PeteZaHut - back in the day I would have agreed with you, but I'm just not seeing that level of devotion any more.
@Giordano - I agree, it will be a deal breaker, at least if it happened here in the US. Why go so far when there's a church on the corner and a mega church online?
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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I know of one area where they rearranged everyone, turns out so they could consolidate and close two halls. (This was not explained in the beginning.) Everyone grumbled but tried to comply. But a few years on, it turns out that a lot of the ones who were most inconvenienced (traffic, bus rides, driving at night) just quit going, at least to the week night meeting. What I think happened (reading between the lines of some emails I received) is that everything got confused and backwards, and some people just quit going and no one noticed.
So, the bOrg better be careful, by turning into a mega church, they might lose a lot of followers. And I do think they care, I don't think they would purposely want to shrink, just because of their egos.
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WT “Study” for 18th Sept 2016 – “Grateful Recipients of God’s Undeserved Kindness”
by Nicholaus Kopernicus in“life is to short” has commented on the above study in terms of grace being translated as undeserved kindness in the nwt.
the analysis is quite interesting.. here in this thread, i will be opening up other facets of the “study”.
for example.... paragraph 11 applies the daniel 12:3 phrase – “those having insight” to the “anointed remnant”.
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Spiral
The study articles and the meetings in general are incredibly dull, and I agree they are just .... gibberish! Today's is no exception.
Who writes this stuff? Really - it's just a mess. No wonder meeting attendance keeps slipping, at least where I am. A good percentage (maybe 70%) of attendees here are elderly, going to meeting out of habit.
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I need more faith so I've been told
by hoser ini attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.
the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.
he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.
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Spiral
"most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it."
Interesting comment, probably true. Most have just been bored to death for so long they don't even know what they think. (My observation here locally.) BUT I think it's a little telling, the powers that be up the ladder realize they have a negative (to them) trend on their hands?
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May 22 1969 Awake!
by zeb in"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?
because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".
may 22 awake!
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Spiral
Wait! If you google 1969 Awake bound volume it comes up in Google images. HMMMMMM
Handy to have!
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May 22 1969 Awake!
by zeb in"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?
because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".
may 22 awake!
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Spiral
Can someone post a picture of this article?
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Were YOU forced into a loveless marriage?
by Nathan Natas inmany young jw women are "married off" to virtual strangers, often older men, soon after they are of legal age.. did this happen to you?.
did it happen to a close friend or sibling?.
tell us about it.. from universal life ministries on facebook:.
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Can't give a lot of details, but both were in their twenties. Both were considered sub-prime marriage material in JW eyes, because of previous problems with obeying the rules (both had been on "reproof", perhaps more than once).
Originally, they both seemed ok with it, but it was obvious to outsiders that they were being pushed together. They are still together (4+ years) so we'll see, but we all felt they were railroaded into it because the brothers and their parents just wanted to get both of them "settled".
Again, ugh!!!
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Were YOU forced into a loveless marriage?
by Nathan Natas inmany young jw women are "married off" to virtual strangers, often older men, soon after they are of legal age.. did this happen to you?.
did it happen to a close friend or sibling?.
tell us about it.. from universal life ministries on facebook:.
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Spiral
I know of a situation like this, the parents just wanted to get their daughter "settled".
Ugh, really upsetting.
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When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?
by TTWSYF ini know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.
i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.
what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.
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@Mrs.Flipper
About people shunning their own adult kids "out of loyalty" for years - I have seen this lately.
Amazing, and disgusting.