last thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item.
in which having told the audience that wt doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.. among the usual scriptures cited "honor god with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value..".
and it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the uk would be two one penny coins!
IDK, I'd have to say in my Mom's congregation tithing wouldn't collect very much. Too many poor people. All the successful professional types that were here two decades ago are elderly or gone. The elders and M servants here now are all poor, several just living on social security. Congregation half the size of what it used to be.
The Mormons have the other half of that equation right, because they encourage education. The local Mormon congregation here is larger and wealthier.
http://www.icsahome.com/events/midwest.
middle tennessee conference .
understanding abusive spiritual systems and relationships .
Thank you for posting this!
Just the agenda is food for thought about what we all experienced, and what our still-in loved ones are still experiencing. Wish I could go.
it now appears that the wt can df you just by marking you.
this happened to my me and my wife a few week ago.
a marking talk was given at the mid-week meeting in which no names were mentioned yet a detailed description of the "offending bastards" was delivered so that there as no doubt who this "pond scum" might be.
And to think I was just recently told the JWs don't "mark" any more, what a joke.
DK, best wishes to your whole family!! It's problematical to have a JW cleaner (I know this from experience) so it might be better for you to have someone who doesn't report back to the elders. Sheesh!
this is such a strange article.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.
notice the parts about one won't get truth if it's spoon fed.
I agree, when I saw that article, I thought it was weird even by JW standards. One could hope it was written out of a sort of desperation to keep the worker bees under control.
But, the JWs I know were totally taken in. "Look, they say they don't brainwash us, so it must be true! I can have my own thoughts as long as they are WT approved thoughts!"
UGH
just wondering how many are assisted to wake up after experiencing harsh treatment from "the loving shepherds of the congregation"?.
perhaps some were starting to wake up, and such behaviour or treatment gave them the push to leave?.
as jesus supposedly said "come to me all who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.
@joe134cd: problem is, if the publisher/MS/Elder can't count the time because the elderly sister is baptised, there's no motivation (bOrg-wise) to do so. I've seen that here where I am. The sisters will go visit (repeatedly) elderly, home-bound ones to make return visits, but the elderly home-bound congregation members are never visited.
Sad, isn't it?
just wondering how many are assisted to wake up after experiencing harsh treatment from "the loving shepherds of the congregation"?.
perhaps some were starting to wake up, and such behaviour or treatment gave them the push to leave?.
as jesus supposedly said "come to me all who are toiling and loaded down, and i will refresh you.
A particularly harsh and unfair control freak elder was the first thing that made me start to wake up. It took a few years and some other issues, but his outrageous behavior was what opened the door to reality for me.
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Chook, I agree! Surely encouraging the making a lifelong commitment of this sort when underage is child abuse.
august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.
@Half banana Yes, like a cheap creepy sci fi movie!
august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.
Reading these kind of letters gives me the creeps! Is it just me?
the manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.
the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.
note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.
Yes, beware of "fake news" everywhere. Listen to nothing but what we tell you!
I can remember a time, when I was small, when the JWs were encouraged to listen to the news and keep up with current events, etc., because it was all going to prove Bible prophecy.
Now, it's hide your head in the sand. I agree with Mr. Flipper. Something is way off here!
