Posts by Spiral

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Loosing your Privleges and Scumbag elders

by Addison0998 in

so 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.

we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.

anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.

Spiral

Addison, this is how the bOrg and the elders ABUSE single women. Jerking them around over their private life, taking a ridiculous "privilege" away, and then just basically making your congregation life dull and demeaning. I can name several sisters I know in this situation, who have wasted years - decades - on the hamster wheel of congregational approval.

Then, if they do get married, it's frequently to someone they would never have picked initially. The bOrg's rules for chaperoning ruin most chances of getting to know your prospective spouse in any real way before you get married. And then, no divorce allowed!

RUN, GO, BE FREE!!!

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Thanks WT. for making it so easy for us when we come after you- sincerely GOG OF MAGOG

by nowwhat? in

"soon very soon when we come after you we will have easy access to every witness address and info thanks to your database that you have set up!

"- satan's hordes.

remember back in the 90's they didn't want the elders to have a publisher list on their computer for fear the govt.

Spiral

Hi nowwhat, I thought the same thing! I do remember. I don't even think they remember what they've told the R&F and when.

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Publisher ID: leaked video clip 2 of 4

by Fay Dehr in

"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.

open to your comments... https://youtu.be/xz1arhu0fg0

[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].

Spiral

Probably the PIMI people in the org care more about who gets what scandalous details than those of us who are out. An old JW friend of mine is really upset about what she imagines was written about her and her family when they moved congregations. Because she can't see the letters and she thinks the elders in the new congregation are looking at them "funny" (paranoid much?) she's all in a twist about it. And perhaps rightly so, who knows?

If you're out, you really don't care, unless I suppose you were actually accused of something really serious (and real).

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My Belief in Prayer

by compound complex in

my belief in prayer was once bolstered by my strong attachment to what i had read in aid to bible understanding.

my having a part in its initial prep in the factory and, later, a detailed proofing of thousands of references to it made this bible dictionary an influence in my former life.

please note this extract on jehovah's seeming delay in the answering of prayer.

Spiral

Just goes to show that the JW god is a cold fish, indeed. Probably, maybe, sometime, if he feels like it, he might act. Otherwise, you humans just try waiting a few centuries longer for help.

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Motives Matter

by AllTimeJeff in

there is a difference between the leadership of the borg (gb 2.5, is that what they're on now?

) and the sheeples, that for a variety of reasons, stick with this nonsense.. not every jw publisher believes this stuff.

the gb knows this.

Spiral

AllTimeJeff: Interesting turn on the discussion. The Sheeples are a special lot. As an old saying goes, “If you don’t have anything planned for your life, you’ll likely fall into the plans of someone else. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much!”

You know the sad thing is, at this point, I see that some of my JW friends (I'm in my 50s) just don't have the guts to tell their relatives (as in righteous elderly parents) they don't want to be a JW anymore.

Sad, but how wonderful is THAT for the GB. Followers (and contributors) who don't have the courage to quit, and keep on giving!

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"I am so excited to hear the Sunday morning talks at this summer's convention"

by Sour Grapes in

i have a super uber jdub relative who lives several states away.

he is always trying to encourage me since he knows that i stopped going to the kingdom haul.

anyhow, he sends me a copy of the program for the summer regional convention and pointed out the sunday morning talks.

Spiral

That's brilliant and evil, Sour Grapes!

If he wants to "eagerly anticipate" listening to that drivel, well there's no fixing that. But you might have just taken a little of the shine off that anticipation.

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Aeon: How tyrants work up crowds. [Interesting reading. Think Rutherford; Think JW Conventions]

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

important reading:.

https://aeon.co/essays/the-omnipotent-victim-how-tyrants-work-up-a-crowds-devotion.

after reading the article, please read the commentary: .

Spiral

Excellent reading, thank you for posting. So appropriate today given the subject. Commentary is spot on as well.

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GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

by Fay Dehr in

get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

Spiral

Watching the news on the GDPR with interest from the US. Great letter!

Question, does the org keep publisher records using any sort of ID number (such as a social security number like we have in the US). If so, can a person find out what their ID number is, or under what name(s) the org has their records stored? There could be records under more than one name, and the org (or any other organization for that matter) could have bits of data on one person scattered across differently named files (I'm thinking).

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Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?

by Fay Dehr in

feeling pressure to attend the memorial?.

as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.

if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.

Spiral

Hi Fay Dehr, THANK YOU! I have been dreading what to do, because of my Mom. She took a fall a couple of weeks ago, is in a wheel chair presently and her dementia is worse. She doesn't even know what day it is. If anyone says anything, now I know what to say. (I could care less about going myself.) What a weight off my mind!

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Talking to the people under the steeple

by Giordano in

i haven't found religion viable after we left the jws some fifty years ago.. oddly enough i will be conducting a session at the oxford forum which is put on once a week on a sunday by the presbyterian church.

they invite scholars, professors, artists etc.

people of interest to expose their congregation to what else is going on in this community.

Spiral

That sounds like a great opportunity to talk to people who normally wouldn't understand what an ex-JW goes through. Please let us know how it goes.