Spiral

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  There is something I don't understand about the selling off of Kingdom Halls

  by Tameria2001 in

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  i have been reading where the watchtower is closing down kingdom halls.

  there is something that i don't understand, or maybe i am just misunderstanding it.

  can someone clear this up for me?

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  Spiral

  Tameria, a lot of the JWs don't understand that if title to the KH is held legally by the WT Society (as it often is), it doesn't matter how much time, effort and money you've donated. Legally whoever holds title calls the shots and gets the proceeds when the property is sold. If the WT holds title and the congregation is making payments indefinitely (not linked to a note or mortgage that can be paid off) it's really just perpetually leased property. No end of payment in sight.

  And, again, if the JWs were more educated, they would understand this.
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  I Saw An Elder Yesterday Who Told Me 3 Area Kingdom Halls Were Being Dissolved

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he said they read the letter to the congregation and were told the kh would be disbanded.

  2 other halls in the area were slated for closure.

  he said many people in the congregation began crying.

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  I know of a case like this from 5 years ago. The congregations shrank because the distance and traffic made it too hard to attend the meeting (especially during the week). The bOrg leadership didn't really seem to care.
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  Congratulations to the W. T.

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think congratulations are long overdue to the wt for the excellent job they do of keeping members dumbed-down and feeling safe inside the cocoon of a hive mind.

  they tell us that the best education program in the world is reading the wt publications but here is a conversation i had with my uber elder buddy yesterday that may prove otherwise.

  we were talking about the october broadcast and the question of whether gods name should be included or not, when i made an offhand comment about the compiling of the new testament and the canonisation of its books.

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  I never knew any of that either, until I quit going to the KH.

  Here's a book to suggest he read: Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors are Not Who We Think They Are, by Bart Ehrman. I understand that not everyone agrees with all of Mr. Ehrman's points, but this book is sure an eye opener.

  Available on Amazon and Kindle.

  His brain might just explode when he reads this.
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  JW Investment Tip

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when your fridge is getting empty, what should you do?

  a recent wt shows the ideal next step.

  (in picture form, so all ages/education levels can understand.).

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  LongHairGal, everything you say is true. The "poverty pushers" at Warwick don't care that their bad advice has put people who listened to them into poverty. They are "warm and well fed" and are ignore the consequences of following their cult. So sad.

  Aren't we glad we are all out?
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  JW Investment Tip

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when your fridge is getting empty, what should you do?

  a recent wt shows the ideal next step.

  (in picture form, so all ages/education levels can understand.).

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  @stuckinarut2

  THAT makes me a little crazy, to think they get away with being labeled a "charity". Sheesh!
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  JW Investment Tip

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when your fridge is getting empty, what should you do?

  a recent wt shows the ideal next step.

  (in picture form, so all ages/education levels can understand.).

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  Spiral

  I was appalled when I saw this watchtower. Just recently I heard of a case of a 62 year old sister on her last dime, trying to do odd jobs, no money, no savings, no retirement, but a "good sister" (as in, went out in service a lot).

  Well guess what, she just had a car accident. Hurt, car totaled, needed medical care she has no insurance for. Did anyone give her any real help? No, partly because no one else has any money! She has to go live with her "worldly" son. (Said like it's a bad thing.)

  This article is undue influence. But really, if a person can't see through this sham, they are also to blame.

  Cult!
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  A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

  by Tallon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

  if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

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  @cha ching (about sisters messing up their bibles).

  The sisters do most of the preaching work, and yet the brothers feel free to insult them.

  BTW, I don't believe I ever saw a sister ruin her bible with lipstick. Ridiculous.

  I can't believe any ever stay in this organization.
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  A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

  by Tallon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

  if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

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  I'm afraid to ask..... why is the "silver sword" sister proof?
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  A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

  by Tallon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

  if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

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  Tallon, I've been giving this thread some thought.

  The biggest problem with being a submissive women in the bOrg is that you might think [convince yourself] that it's the truth, try to "toe the line", be a good publisher, blah blah blah...... but, as a woman:

  Do you even like the organization? You follow the rules, but do you even like it? Do you even like being a JW?

  More and more, I am seeing women (my age, 50+ somethings) quietly dropping out. Some hang on hoping for the new order, seeing dead loved ones, taking care of animals, etc., but when they are honest with themselves, they don't even like being a witness. They don't even like their JW husbands. Elder or not.

  Maybe that's behind that "best life ever" campaign. Brainwashing the women back into submission.
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  A question for you women; what was it really like for you being in the Org?

  by Tallon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi there folks.. i took a bit of time out from the forum, however i'm back again.. what was it really like for you, your experiences good or bad, etc, in the org?.

  if you were granted a listening ear by the gb, what changes would you like to see implemented?.

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  Spiral

  Also, I have no interest in talking to the GB about changes. They are the problem.