I've heard of Dub before. I think it comes from J-Dubs or J-Double Us. Thank you all for the terms and lists. Very helpful. It would be nice if this thread could be a sticky.
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Acronyms
by Distracted inreading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what tatt stands for (?).
any more acronyms that are special to this site?
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JW Religion same as Stock Market/Gambling (Concept)
by Da.Furious infor the last few days i was discussing with a colleague of mine at work about the stock market and how some people, even when losing money, they will hold onto their shares because someone said they will rise again.
this may lead to lost opportunities or even losing all their money instead of de-risking and offsetting loses by buying another stock, in other word jumping ship.. this got me thinking about jws (knowing that i am still in).
took one step back and looked at our family and what we have done by sticking to this religion.
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I was thinking today about how all those years I was an active witness how I tried to visualize the New Order as a goal worth working for. Try as I might, I still couldn't get in to the vision of it being so wonderful. First they tell us that we will have to go through terrible persecution and a lot of us will be killed but we should be happy that Jehovah won't let his organization completely vanish. Then after everyone else in the world in is destroyed in Armeggedon, the birds will be eating their bodies.
We will rebuild society and welcome back the resurrrected, but even if one of them was a spouse we couldn't live with them as husband and wife because they will be as angels of heaven, unable to marry or have kids.That means if we died during the GT we wouldn't be able to either. Even though these would be back in human bodies here on earth...doesn't make sense.
After a thousand years Satan will be let loose and we will have to go through a bunch of that stuff all over again.
They keep holding on holding out the carrot for us but it is a diseased hateful carrot.
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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I love it when Hitchens says that 'being told we have to love and obey someone we must also fear is the essence of sadomasochism.' That is so true. -
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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I meant to add this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christopher-lane/hitchens-vs-dawkins-agnosticism_b_1235368.html
EDA:
I actually think agnosticism is more scientific than atheism. I guess it has to do with being raised as JW. I feel allergic to anyone who claims they have the absolute truth about anything, even whether there is a God. I think a trully scientific mind has room for uncertainty, and would want to steer clear of dogma and indoctrination even if it has to do with science.
One of things my worldly Dad asked to me to read was The Cry and the Covenant about Philip Iqnaz Semmeiweiz. My Dad usually read westerns and Ken Follett novels, etc. and he was a foreman in a factory; he wasn't a scientist. I saw that book in a library book shelf after he died. It just stood out to me. So I checked it out and finally read it. There is a couple of inaccuracies in it, but essentially it's a true story about that poor doctor trying to save women from dying after childbirth and it is compelling. The men of science in that period of time thought cleanliness and handwashing was unneccessary and denigrated the midwives who did it as believing in old wive's tales. The stubbornness of the scientific community despite Semmelweiz's carefully reported evidence was crazy.
I think there are some things out there that we still don't understand and we are limited by our bodies and our five senses. Even with all the equipment and knowledge scientists have, they still have that limitation.
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Christopher Hitchens Vs Armageddon
by The Marvster ini've just spent a big part of today watching interviews, debates etc with richard dawkins.
when i was a jw i used to hate this man with all my energy, i looked on him as the devil's offspring, he represented an idea that totally terrified me.
today i found myself saying i love the man.
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I loved Christopher Hitchens despite his many warts. One thing I liked about him more than I do Dawkins is that he is more inclusive of agnostics as thinkers and Dawkins takes a harder line about that. Dawkins is too strident for my taste. Hitchens had more charm even though he was a bit of a rogue. -
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Hi First Post Here
by Distracted injust wanted to break the ice and write my first post here and also talk about some things that are bothering me.
i don't go to meetings anymore and i have become inactive for years now.
i don't believe the witnesses have the truth more than any other organized religion.
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Any one else hear about some special thing you can watch or read from the WT site for people to come back in the org going on this month? My mother was urging me to go and watch it. Been afraid to. Even though I realize it is bunk, that stuff depresses me.
One time I expressed an opinion on that scripture about 'going in your interior room when things start to occur.' Mom brought that up a week or two ago says there's new light about that. At some point It's going to be like the original pass-over when the Israelites painted blood over their doorways. God's angels are going to be able to differentiate people to save by their heart condition. In other words she was subtly saying I'm done for unless I get my butt back to the hall.
Should I make a new thread about this or has someone else wrote about this?
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Acronyms
by Distracted inreading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what tatt stands for (?).
any more acronyms that are special to this site?
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Thank you Stan live death and Scully.
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Acronyms
by Distracted inreading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what tatt stands for (?).
any more acronyms that are special to this site?
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Reading through a lot of the forum posts and wondered what TATT stands for (?). Any more acronyms that are special to this site? -
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Hi First Post Here
by Distracted injust wanted to break the ice and write my first post here and also talk about some things that are bothering me.
i don't go to meetings anymore and i have become inactive for years now.
i don't believe the witnesses have the truth more than any other organized religion.
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You guys are funny and nice! Thank you for your comments! -
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Hi First Post Here
by Distracted injust wanted to break the ice and write my first post here and also talk about some things that are bothering me.
i don't go to meetings anymore and i have become inactive for years now.
i don't believe the witnesses have the truth more than any other organized religion.
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Just wanted to break the ice and write my first post here and also talk about some things that are bothering me. I don't go to meetings anymore and I have become inactive for years now.
I don't believe the witnesses have the truth more than any other organized religion. I can't fake my disinterest, but I try to just be nice. Lately relatives and others have been trying to get me to go with them. They talk about some new thing this month the org has to help people back in. This pressure is really getting to me.
I'm agnostic and I don't believe there is any sacred book from God here on earth. I like science but I think there is some sort of intelligence out there but I don't think it is definable.
I feel very lonely. Being raised a witness and being one for most of my adult life has made me feel weird. I don't feel quite of this world and I don't belong in the org either. I miss the support and friendship but I don't miss feeling shackled by all the stuff the org wants a witness to do. I am glad to think my own thoughts and form my own opinions.
Anyway, just looking for someone to talk to.