Posts by blownaway

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Yearly Donations down? 2.4 billion for the 2015/16 financial year

by Diogenesister in

so people keep saying watchtowsr is in a financial mess.

i think we can all accept that numbers are stagnating at best and going down year on year in the north / western countries and japan.. however the recent finance dept leeks confirmed that following the may 2015 broadcast requesting more donations, an extra 30 million was sent in for the months of july/august.

stephen lett stated that this figure equated to a 30% increase.. lloyd evans has used this figure to work out how much is donated on a yearly basis worldwide.

blownaway

Well I have not been giving them shit.

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Welcoming Our Latest JW Apologist JTrottigy

by pale.emperor in

i'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.

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he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..

blownaway

The over lapping gen is simple to under stand it just makes no sense and is so stupid and only works to extend the time line of failed prophecy.

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Cain - where's the critical thinking skills?

by jws in

just read a post on facebook where somebody is making some wild crazy-talk about the descendants of cain being the beast of revelation or something.. cain was always a strange tale to me.

don't people use any critical thinking skills when they read this stuff?

everybody knows cain killed his brother abel, but do they ever look at the surrounding tale?.

blownaway

You are taking one point out of a book full to the brim of lunacy. From Jephthah to Jonah.

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

blownaway

ExJW here also. I am not an atheist because I can not prove a universal Neg. It would take faith to say you are an atheist. I am an Agnostic. I can not prove there is or is not a god but since I have seen no evidence of one, I tend to lean that there is not. The strongest argument for god in my mind is the argument by design. Although I do not believe in the bible or any book of religion, there seems to be a lot of design in the diversity of life. But if god or some supreme being exists he does not seem to really give a shit about us.

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Why didn't I leave back then???

by silentbuddha in

sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

blownaway

Pictures, We need covert pictures of the inside. Also covert video. They are making video cameras that look like car fobs. I have one from ebay and it works great. Cost is about 15 bucks. Videos we need videos.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: shame and domination

by john.prestor in

i want to suggest something that i've been ruminating on for a while now.

that involves the possibility that when jehovah's witnesses look for "sheep-like ones" what they're actually looking for is this: those who will allow themselves to be dominated (get rid of things that god "hates," accept the movement's beliefs without protest, not check into the movement's history) and those who are willing to be shamed (letting jehovah's witnesses into their homes when doing so is looked down upon in secular society, talking with them on the street when everyone else avoids them).. i say this because from what i observed at the kingdom halls i attended in the course of gathering data for my research i saw:.

-frequent shaming: jehovah's witnesses must do more to be acceptable to god, they are "good for nothing slaves," they are spared through armageddon by jehovah's "undeserved kindness," etc.

blownaway

Sheep are easily lead to the slaughter. Not very good characteristics for humans.

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Did you wait for something special to happen?

by stillin in

i pretty much fell apart for about two years while i was looking at the religion through new eyes.

i prayed my heart out for two years, begging jehovah to clear a certain thing up that the elders and the organization had perpetuated.

this was supposed to be his spirit-led organization so getting things right in answer to possibly just one person's heartfelt prayers should be an easy task for the sovereign of the universe.

blownaway

There are some good people in the cult. Some ass holes also. To stay in the cult you have to ignore any logic. Do as you are told and keep your head down. Some never open their eyes. And some know damn well its a load of BS but love the attention they get by giving talks and being elders that they really don't care about it not being the truth. My Grandfather was one of these. He knew it was BS. He knew about 607 BCE, He knew about the changes, Pyramids and more. When I found out his answer to me in private was even if this is not the truth its a good way to live. I knew then my GF was a fraud. Never had much to do with him till he died. His ashes and my grandmothers ashes landed on my door step. [ When my GM died he buried her under a tree in his yard, He asked when he died if his Nephew would bury him next to her. He did. My cousin bought the property and was digging up trees and found the bags of ashes. Asked who was buried on the land. I told him what he had found. He sent them to me and I buried them both on my Great Grandmothers grave [on my grandmothers side] Bought a granite stone and poured a small concrete pad and placed it under my GGM stone. Technically not supposed to do that but its an old cemetery and it was better for me to have closure and it does not hurt anything I know of.

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In Search of An Analogy

by InjusticeSystem in

i hope this finds all of you well.

i'm also hoping some of you might be able to help me with a particular type of de-witnessing strategy that i'm trying to develop more in my own discussions with active family members.

it seems to me that analogy and metaphor plays a prominent role in the society's teaching (critical thought killing) techniques.

blownaway

One of the ones I used was the 1914, They say that Russel predicted WW1, I said no he said the end of the world and WW1 happened. but not gods Armageddon. Its like a psychic saying there will be a plane crash but a boat sank and them saying NAILED IT.

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Do you think that race is a factor in education in the U.S.

by recovering in

i was wondering if racial bias is a factor in u.s. education?.

would you be concerned if it was?

why would you be concerned?.

blownaway

No, culture is. Black culture is rotten. They need to stand up and fix it.

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second letter from a supposed friend

by chellechelle in

jw
friends

dear michelle, .

just one qucik letter to let you know i miss you.

like everyone else i am concerned for you; but dont worry im not going to lecture you.

blownaway

Its more repression, JWs have the same feelings and desires as anyone else. They are just repressed. Sexually and other ways. Some are the two lives people. They live one way at the hall and around other dubbers but then go out with wordly friends or at work are normal. This I have seen in bigger cities where its easy to hide. Small towns where everyone knows what you ate for dinner last night not so easy.

My old business partner was an elder. At hall he was all in, he would not watch R movies no matter what if any dubbers were around. This went for his anal retentive wife. Her daddy was an elder and an idiot who thought he was the cherry on top of the JW heap. She thought so too. When at work we would talk about Franze and apostate issues, and dirty jokes. He would even borrow my Ozzy Osborne tapes to listen in his work truck to and from work. Would never let his wife know.

When we were at a job, we installed floorcoving, we had to move all peoples crap out of a room, I found the guys stash of porn tapes. I wanted to see what old kunts would do, [not his name, just a slang nick name] I put it in and it was hard core pron. He sat down on the couch with mouth open. He is about 32 years old at the time and he looked like he was just going in to puberty and saw a center fold for the first time. We also while waiting for some flooring to set up, sat in a living room and I played a tape of Stanly Kubrics Clock Work Orange. We watched the whole thing. He would for years after when joking do the kicking the guy in the guts while singing in the rain. dance.

This went on for 15 years. Until I went full on butting heads with the other elders in the hall and told one that they were no better than Scientology, 607 was wrong, and CT used the pyrimids as the date code for the end and they have never been correct. bla bla bla. This elder went to my partners Father in law who was the PO at the time. Shit hit the fan and now he was told we could not work together any longer. He would barely talk while we were eating lunch the last month we worked together. I got old Kunts a job at a local carpet store and he is still there. I knew he could not work with me and my Grandfather who was alive and an elder back then said that old Walter H his FIL told him our partnership was over and done. LOL It worked well for me. But I know its all smoke and mirrors for many