Posts by blownaway

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

blownaway

blownaway - As I said you are being a pedant.
Pink unicorns don't exist. God doesn't exist. These two statements are equally certain.
'Proof' in the sense you are using it belongs only to mathematicians where is equates to tautology.
When asked whether they believe that pink unicorns exist nobody witters on about proving a negative and claims to be an agnostic about pink unicorns. So why is the god question any different?

fYou miss the point all together. Its not a matter of what one believes. I don't believe in the god of the bibles existence no more than I believe in a 1953 Cadillac orbiting Saturn, but I also can not prove this. No evidence for is not proof of non existence of. Black swan events are because when something is not possible sometimes it actually is. So you can not say I can prove when you can not. Tell me you went to Andromeda and checked under every rock and did not find god? And the rest of the universe? No, So all you really have is the fact like Me that I have seen not evidence that there is a god. I can not say there is not some kind of supreme being or Aliens beings or flying spaghetti monster, I have seen nothing to show me they exist but at the same time I have no proof that some where in the universe they do. And neither do you. You are confusing evidence of absence with absence of evidence.

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

blownaway

cofty, you can not prove anything does not exist. Reasonable doubt is not proof. To prove god does not exist in your garage may be provable, To prove god any god or unicorn does not universally exist is not possible. Not for you or any human that is. To prove god does not universally exist is to prove beyond all possible doubt. You can not. So your idea of proof takes some faith. You can not prove beyond all doubt that any god or any unicorn does not exist somewhere in the universe. Just deal with it.

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Youtube videos doing the JW rounds. Gods name

by pleaseresearch in

so here in the uk this video is getting jws very excited.

now my mum actualy said it wa funny to hear jw music at the start and finish.

so i'm wondering if the watchtower had any input into this.

blownaway

Thanks for the link OC. First thing that came to my mind was who was Drei Linden film and what connections do they have. Lots of smoke here and some fire. The JWs are desperate to find vindication and support even if they have to manufacture it.

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Independance day.

by zeb in

jw
friends

happy independence day to all the american readers.

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cheers all!.

blownaway

On every 4th of July. I always think of sister Martin from Arcadia, now dead. She asked one of the elders would it be a sin to watch the fireworks from my home or only if I drove to see them. She was serious. Even then I went down to the lake and watched the show. Douche nozzles they are.

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Shot off a TON of Fireworks for the 4th of July, did anybody else?

by Dunedain in

i just finally settled down for the night, as its 1 a.m. in the morning, est, right now.

i finally cleaned up my yard a bit, and a few friends that were over have left.. anyway, i bought about $1,000 dollars worth of fireworks to shoot off for the 4th.

i had sooo much sh%t, i didnt think i was gonna shoot anywhere near as much as i did, but, between me and 2 buddies, we shot off like 85% of it.. literally for an hour and a half we were shooting non stop, sometimes 3 or 4 heavy mortars at once, without a break.

blownaway

I went to a concert and fireworks put on my the Walmart family. Bentonville. It was great. I don't buy fireworks. You are literally setting fire and blowing up your money.

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

blownaway

This objection comes up frequently.
The question 'can you prove there is no god?' is utterly meaningless because the word god has an endless number of meanings as we have already seen in this thread.
If somebody asked me whether I could prove beyond reasonable doubt that the god of Jesus does not exist I would not hesitate to say yes I can.
What people usually mean is 'can you prove that something that I could put the god label on and which I refuse to define in advance does not exist?' then the only sensible reply is 'go away and think about your question'.
Personally I don't believe in agnostics. They are just muddled about the question

You can not prove a universal negative. It is impossible for you to travel to every part of the universe and turn over every rock and say nope no god here. You are deluding yourself if you think you can. It does not matter what god you are talking about. Just as I can not prove there is not a gold tea pot orbiting Plut. I doubt there is but I can not prove there is not. I doubt god exits but I can not prove it. You can say you don't believe god exists but you can not say with any truth that you know. You don't know. Intelligent people know their limitations and you seem to not know yours.

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Yearly Donations down? 2.4 billion for the 2015/16 financial year

by Diogenesister in

so people keep saying watchtowsr is in a financial mess.

i think we can all accept that numbers are stagnating at best and going down year on year in the north / western countries and japan.. however the recent finance dept leeks confirmed that following the may 2015 broadcast requesting more donations, an extra 30 million was sent in for the months of july/august.

stephen lett stated that this figure equated to a 30% increase.. lloyd evans has used this figure to work out how much is donated on a yearly basis worldwide.

blownaway

Well I have not been giving them shit.

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Welcoming Our Latest JW Apologist JTrottigy

by pale.emperor in

i'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.

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he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..

blownaway

The over lapping gen is simple to under stand it just makes no sense and is so stupid and only works to extend the time line of failed prophecy.

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Cain - where's the critical thinking skills?

by jws in

just read a post on facebook where somebody is making some wild crazy-talk about the descendants of cain being the beast of revelation or something.. cain was always a strange tale to me.

don't people use any critical thinking skills when they read this stuff?

everybody knows cain killed his brother abel, but do they ever look at the surrounding tale?.

blownaway

You are taking one point out of a book full to the brim of lunacy. From Jephthah to Jonah.

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

blownaway

ExJW here also. I am not an atheist because I can not prove a universal Neg. It would take faith to say you are an atheist. I am an Agnostic. I can not prove there is or is not a god but since I have seen no evidence of one, I tend to lean that there is not. The strongest argument for god in my mind is the argument by design. Although I do not believe in the bible or any book of religion, there seems to be a lot of design in the diversity of life. But if god or some supreme being exists he does not seem to really give a shit about us.