This is truly horrific. I have no other words to describe it.
R.I.P. Sincere condolences to his family and friends.
vigil help for burney man who died after being set on fire.
community members shared their memories of wicks, a member of the jehovah's witness hall in burney.
many of them remember him from his post at the shell station, where he worked along with his wife.
This is truly horrific. I have no other words to describe it.
R.I.P. Sincere condolences to his family and friends.
l don't visit very often now , but l wanted to drop in to wish all you folks a merry christmas and happy new year .
as l cannot find a thread already started for this l have started one !
in the immortal words of chuck berry ( l think ) " come on everybody " join in wishing your fellow posters a merry christmas , happy holidays etc .
The tree is up, the gifts are wrapped,
The annual bonuses have all been scrapped.
When the credit card companies say, "Payment due!"
All they'll get is, "Merry Christmas to you!" ........ GreatTeacher
LOL .... That's brilliant. I must definitely remember this.
Best wishes to you all over the festive season.
been away for a couple of months as i felt that i needed a break.
during this period i completed reading a book (fiction), titled; conclave - authored by robert harris.
there is a very interesting sentence in the book which got me thinking.
Been away for a couple of months as I felt that I needed a break. During this period I completed reading a book (fiction), titled; Conclave - authored by Robert Harris
There is a very interesting sentence in the book which got me thinking. Some people choose to lead a simplified life, and there is nothing wrong with it in itself. However, when it is "forced upon you" by the so called "recommendation" of the Org to be "no part of the world" and in effect denying yourself some of the many pleasures of life, then in my view it is an issue.
With the above in mind, I was wondering what your thoughts are on this sentence / quote in the book - page 25.
An excess of simplicity, after all, was just another form of ostentation, and pride in one's humility a sin.
that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?
" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".
have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.
I just took a look at that article. Wow, it seems like they are putting less efforts in finding good arguments supporting their authority.. or is it just me?
Paragraph 12: We are not perfect, so we need to make changes on a regular basis.
Paragraph 13: The changes we make on a regular basis prove we have God's Spirit.
Paragraph 14: Our organization is successful with 8 million members: It has to be the angels!
Paragraph 15: We made unpopular rules like disfellowshipping smokers. We have to be directed by God!!
Now what if the Catholics used these arguments?
Paragraph 12 and 13: same, word for word.
Paragraph 14: Our organization is successful with 1.5 billion members: It has to be the angels!
Paragraph 15: We made unpopular rules like banning contraception. We have to be directed by God!!
Like Mike (Mike and Kim) would say "Idiots!". ..... Stephane Laliberte
I have faded from the Org over a little over 3 years now. From which date of Watchtower Magazine did this come from? Where can I get a copy of it - download if possible.
all this talk of kingdom halls.... remember what used to happen?.
gilthwaiterigg lane kendal la9 6nt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11f_plajek.
My experience on a 'KH Quick Build'.
My profession is an Occupational Health and Safety Practitioner. Yes I know; I;ve heard all the jokes before and am considered, among certain 'professionals', as public enemy number one. However, someone has to do the job, even on JW building projects.
A few years back, I was a member of a safety team on regional KH Quick Build projects. I took my role seriously and applied my knowledge and experience of the construction industry accordingly. My team overseer often delegated to me to give the safety updates at the tea / lunch breaks.
On one occasion I reported back to the ‘Project Overseer’ an issue of serious concern which, unchecked, could have the potential to result in serious injury or worse to the volunteer(s). His reply; ‘We don't build like the world!'
For me, his response was the end of my involvement on KH Building Projects. In the project health & safety file was a copy of my professional registration. There was no way that I was going to put my registration at risk. So I withdrew it from the file, walked off the project, never to return.
we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.
and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.
in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.
I forgot to add in my first post;
1 was a manager on a poultry farm (graduate of the Gilead Missionary School)
we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.
and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.
in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.
A heating engineer in charge of a hospital (don't even know the correct name for this job but quite skilled) ... Slimboyfat.
HVAC Engineer - Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning. A skilled trade.
we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.
and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.
in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.
I’ve attended a number of congregations over the years and these were the professions that I know some of the Elders had;
3 were company directors
2 were medical doctors (GP & Anaesthetist)
3 were architects
Some were involved with finance (accountants)
Some were tradesman (fitter & turners, electricians, electro-mech technicians)
1 was a branch manager of a retail store
1 was a lawyer
A good number of Elders were retired
… and many that I did not know what their occupations were.
this has probably been discussed before so please feel free to include links as well.
so what would wt be now if it had encouraged it's members to use the internet or technology for spreading the good news.
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Modern technology ie. the www; has certainly exposed the Org for what it truly is; a farce. The only downside is that we did not have this technology back in 'our day'.
Had we had this technology back in the 70's to 90's, then, IMO, the WTBTS as we know it today, would be nothing more than a minority religion, scrabbling 'for crumbs' to find to some relevance.
well, round my way (south of the uk) all the way up to and including the regional conventions this summer, baptism numbers have been extremely low.
but i have just received news of three recent circuit assembly days where the figures seem to be higher.
(all have been across the last three weekends at a uk assembly hall in october).
@ Hernandez ^^^^^
Never a truer word spoken / written
The Organisation and its current leadership today is nothing in comparison to what we experienced in the 80 / 90's.
W.ORG ! ..... you might as well bow down to the 'golden calf' in the days of the ancient Israelites.
PS: My post is not aimed at those who came afterward afterward as they are possibly none the wiser.