So true, If they dropped the DFing and shunning they would lose half their people tomorrow.
Yep, could not agree more
the fear or threat of being disfellowshipped is what is keeping thousands of jdubs stuck in the borg.
the borg knows that and constantly reminds the witlesses of this loving provision from their desert god.. this forces thousands of people to live miserable lives.
millions of jdubs live for the promised panda and lion petting zoo while pissing away the only life they will ever have.
So true, If they dropped the DFing and shunning they would lose half their people tomorrow.
Yep, could not agree more
i'd like to take this opportunity to warmly welcome our newest jw apologist jtrottigy.
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he'll likely only be here for a few days like most jw defenders before he runs away when presented with his own doctrine.. so far he's already said some hilarious stuff, like "there's no such thing as nepotism in jehovah's organisation", "confidentiality is paramount to elders" and, my personal favourite "the overlapping generation is so simple to understand".. yh don't think i don't remember you from jwtalk..
What I cannot understand is that for years the WTBTS has been banging on about how close we are to armageddon and the ushering in of a paradise earth and therefore how important the message needs to be preached. Looking at the second photograph, above, of the people manning the carts, there doesn't appear to be any real sense of urgency to preach the message.
hey guys, so now that i’m pretty much atheist and i’m not scared of demons or supernatural things, or bring them into my house by watching movies or reading books about them lol, i defenitly want to watch a few scary movies.
i’ve always loved scary movies, but as witness, you don’t get to watch many since they need to be pg-13 and have no spiritism in it lol.
does anyone have any suggestions?
Sorry that I can't offer any suggestions as I can't watch these kind of films. I find them disturbing and they give me the creeps.
i guess it would depend for me.
some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.
many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.
No … I saw enough snitching within the Org to last a lifetime.
many years ago, in the congregation i attended at the time, there was a brother who had endured bad health over many years.
as result he underwent a number of operations - a couple being life saving operations.
at one or two circuit assemblies he was interviewed on the platform where he related how he endured ill health.. for me, i felt very uncomfortable listening to his experience and, i actually felt embarrassed for him because i have never been one to speak of any health issues i had, let alone publicise it from the platform.
Many years ago, in the congregation I attended at the time, there was a brother who had endured bad health over many years. As result he underwent a number of operations - a couple being life saving operations.
At one or two circuit assemblies he was interviewed on the platform where he related how he endured ill health.
For me, I felt very uncomfortable listening to his experience and, I actually felt embarrassed for him because I have never been one to speak of any health issues I had, let alone publicise it from the platform. Don't get me wrong, I did have a lot of empathy for him because of what he went through.
How did you feel when you listened to experiences which, for some reason or another, made you uncomfortable?
i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.
when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..
@ sir82
I'm in my mid 50's and can testify to having experienced corporal punishment, both from my father and teachers at school.
my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
With the benefit of hindsight and life experience, I, like eyeuse2badub posted, do not blame my parents. They were converts - started studying around 1972.
My parents, as many, many others have been, were duped by the Org's false teachings and promises.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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Another blast from the past;
with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).
meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.
let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?
Great discussion, Carla.
Flipper has touched on a number of points, however, as a suggestion for women to defend their stance in the congregation it might be an idea to bring the following to the attention of the BOE.
If women, in the Org, are viewed as 'lesser beings' than men, then how come Theresa May is currently the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, and Angela Merkel is the Chancellor of Germany. Note: there have been other women who served as Head of State.
Then there are women who are Monarchs, such as Queen Elizabeth 2nd of the UK and Commonwealth countries having reigned for 66 years and counting.