if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.
the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.
(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..
This is part of a statement made by Marsha de Cordova in an interview about the vote . She is the MP for Battersea and the Second Church Estates Commissioner.
" The motion passed today did call for further work on the practical and legal implications necessary to implement Model 4 . I hope that work will be up with energy . I will be following these developments closely . "
Model 4 is the option to have all safeguarding independent.
So that option has not been completely rejected .
Jan from Tam
it is with profound humility and reverence that i share a message of great significance.
in the year 2001, my son and i witnessed the birth of the kingdom of god, experiencing spiritual battles that affirm our divine calling.
as prophesied in the scriptures, my son is the elijah to come, the forerunner to jesus' second coming.. living in the wilderness by his own choosing, my son embodies the spirit and mission of elijah, preparing the way for the lord.
I suspect that this may be a wind up , taking the micky out of the WT .
Jan from Tam.
hi, my name is leacy and i am 41 years old.
i live in california.
i attend the rancho santa margarita congregation.
Welcome Lace83, l am a British middle aged+ woman who , as a lifelong Anglican , has never been a JW . I really am as far removed as possible from what you are looking for .
However as others have said stick around . It's interesting on here.
Jan from Tam
don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
I object to the phrase MAGAt Brit , those two words should never be put together. Brits are absolutely not MAGAts.
Also what's the Daily Mail got to do with it ? More like Fox News l would have thought .
Jan from Tam
if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.
the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.
(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..
Earnest, it may be that different Diocese do things a bit differently, however from the top down it has been made clear that safeguarding needs to be taken seriously.
Actually all this started well before the recent scandal . For many years DBS checks have been in place for anyone who may have access to children or vulnerable adults. Also those people have been required to take safeguarding courses which have to be kept up-to-date.
Last week our Vicaress Claire had to go on a safeguarding course dealing with domestic abuse. Not just for physical violence but mental abuse , which can be harder to spot . She described it as harrowing.
I don't know why the Synod voted how they did yesterday but l would like to know the reasons before commenting.
We ain't perfect , but I'm not sure that any measures can be implemented to stop abuse from ever happening. We are trying and obviously our response to victims needed to change drastically .
Jan from Tam
if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.
the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.
(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..
I would be very interested to find out what other measures Prof Jay thinks need to be implemented.
Jan from Tam
if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.
the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.
(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..
Mmmm as a member of the CofE l know that in recent years safeguarding has been taken very seriously.
We are all being made aware of abuse in all forms - sexual, financial, emotional. Domestic violence and elder abuse.
All churches have safeguarding officers and all members are encouraged to report anything that makes them feel uncomfortable .
As a member of the PCC l have had to have specific training about awareness of something being " not right "
There have been failures and in some cases even maybe a JW type of attitude of not bringing the church into disrepute . However lessons have been learnt
Jan from Tam
so i am having these discussions about children etc and there are witness ties and family history in these discussions.
i got the feeling having this discussion that they seemed to imply somehow it was ‘the parent’s fault’ for having a miscarriage.
whether it was domestic violence, or the mother did something wrong themselves.
Kerry , that seems a very sweeping statement. I think that society in general now understands that there are medical reasons for miscarriages. Also my religious friends, male and female , are not misogynistic. I feel sad that your experience with religion has given you such a negative impression.
Jan from Tam
w64 11/1 pp.
645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?
how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .
Hi Blondie , l can't say that l fully understand how ex JWs feel as l haven't walked in their shoes .
I get what you are saying, l just wondered if Boogerman had the JWs in mind in particular.
Jan from Tam
one of the more ridiculous and offensive things the wts has ever taught and that is saying a lot.. i know i saw a link to this article sometime in the last two weeks but i've lost it!
can anyone direct me to this article?.
Thank you Blondie .
Jan from Tam
