I think that PeacefulPete's post on his thread " Sound familiar " supports some of what l was saying .
Jan
i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.
i'm a wreck in some ways.
i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!
I think that PeacefulPete's post on his thread " Sound familiar " supports some of what l was saying .
Jan
i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.
i'm a wreck in some ways.
i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!
Yes , l did read the title but honestly if you see ' don't read this ' don't you just have to ? : )
You are right that l do not belong to a high control group and if l choose to not go to church on Sunday l ain't in trouble . I am free to choose my level of involvement . Many Anglicans are hatchers , matchers and dispatchers , attending only christenings , weddings and funerals .
I take your point about the high control groups but l would say that having control over other people isn't something unique to religious groups . Communism and Fascism are political ideologies that are based on control .
The desire for power by control is a human condition . Even in a workplace situation bosses will feel " good " if they have complete control over their underlings.
In schools there are teachers who like the feeling of total control over their pupils .
Some see control as a necessity for the greater good , as in Communism , or just feel better about themselves as individuals if they can instill fear in others.
Control by one human being over another isn't love and l agree it has no place in Christianity but unfortunately human beings are faulty and don't act as they should , in all areas of life .
Jan
i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.
i'm a wreck in some ways.
i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!
I agree with dubstepped you do need to get some help with your anger issues . Holding onto all that rage can't be good for you mentally or physically.
Jan
i think back on the 30+ years of bs as well as my fading almost a decade and even now being low key in person to hopefully save my nieces from the wt.
i'm a wreck in some ways.
i'm other days i'm stable however when it comes to theism i depart quickly and with anger!
I am a theist , not a JW , and l have tried to talk to JWs . They DON'T listen , l get the cover my ears and sing la la la reaction . You know that anyone who is not a JW is viewed with suspicion .
Also not all faith groups are the same but you aren't listening to that are you ?
Sorry to be so blunt , it's not my usual style , but you said that you wished that someone had been blunt with you years ago . I don't think that it would have worked , would it ?
Jan
my father married b when both her children and his children were grown adults.
b had two children, a son d and a daughter m. my sister db, my brother rh, and myself got along well with m but not at all with d, who was a very christian person but not a jw.
my siblings and i do not have much to do with our stepmother though we are civil and we don't have any hard feelings between us.
3rdGen thank you for your post. I should have said that he has been gone 20 years now so l have gone through all the stages of grieving and am able to get on with life . Of course l think of him all the time but with slightly less sadness now . The hardest bit is seeing his contemporaries married and with children and l do wonder how his life would have worked out .
How are you ? At least l didn't have to cope with such insensitivity .
Jan
my father married b when both her children and his children were grown adults.
b had two children, a son d and a daughter m. my sister db, my brother rh, and myself got along well with m but not at all with d, who was a very christian person but not a jw.
my siblings and i do not have much to do with our stepmother though we are civil and we don't have any hard feelings between us.
I lost son aged 25 to cancer . I would totally agree with all of the above. To say nothing is worse. I would have people avoid me in the street because they just couldn't talk to me . I kinda got that but if they had just said " l am so sorry " that would have been ok .
Yes sometimes people said things that weren't helpful but l knew that they meant well and wanted to give comfort . That was ok
What l would add is that sometimes people want to be left alone . I remember sitting in the cemetery where my son was buried a couple of days after the funeral . I was sobbing and a lady who lived over the road from the cemetery saw me and came over. She sat down next to me and said something . I replied that l would like to be alone . I don't know what she thought would happen if she left me alone but she didn't go . I felt that because l was obviously worrying her l had to try and stop crying , say that l was alright and go home . Now her actions were really kind , but l just wanted some space to grieve in my way , on my own .
Jan
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
Here in the UK l don't remember being told that the vaccine stopped you getting covid. As Stan said it lessens the impact so people who may have been hospitalised won't be that ill after taking the vaccine .
This is to stop deaths because you won't be so poorly and to take pressure off hospitals . At the moment routine ops are being cancelled and we have heard about cancer treatment being put back because beds and staff are being used for covid patients. I was never under the impression that this would stop covid in it's tracks .
Jan
Happy Australia Day .
Jan
made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.
people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.
i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.
Joliette Carla makes some good points . Joining a charitably organisation means being with people who care for people, not something that the WT is known for.
Hi Carla . It's nice to meet someone who gets what l was saying . As we know people at church don't because of their experience in church and people on here who are ex JWs don't because of their experience with a cult.
No disrespect intended guys it just is hard to get your head around someone else's experience .
Jan
made a big mistake of talking about being raised as a jehovah's witness to some old friends and family.
people have told me that i am still a jws even though i've never been baptized.
i'm in school for social services, dealing with student loan debt, and a lot of other debt.
Joliette as l said l am a life long Anglican and believe me my church is nothing like the WT . I know that a lot of folk here think that they are all the same but my experience is totally different.
I thought that l knew about JWs until l came on here and tbh it took me a long time to get my head around all the information on here . It took me a while to understand the mind control that kept people in the Org .
When l try to talk to others in my church about the WT they think that l am being nasty because they don't get the way that members are manipulated.
As to a " get in " just look up your local Baptist , Methodist, Anglican church and contact the Vicar , Pastor etc .
I feel that you are making excuses, perhaps the WT teaching about Christendom is putting you off . If so then they are still controlling you .
Jan