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  Does christianity induce insanity?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  this is happening in western australian indigenous communities .... quote: "some american-based preachers are distributing emails and videos warning that covid-19 vaccines are evil and the work of satan, and the notion has infected some christian communities in the west australian outback.. veteran aboriginal health worker kathy watson said people spreading false information about the covid-19 vaccination and its links to the devil were "mad".".

  see more at: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/anti-vacc-church-speaks-out-against-misinformation/100430208.

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  Rafe, l think that you are saying that all of the paranoia and guilt etc can be induced in individuals by political ideology . I think so . In Nazi Germany some " good " Germans believed Hitler's rhetoric about Jews and turned on their neighbours, sometimes friends .

  In communist regimes paranoia and brain washing are used to keep the populace being loyal . With the result that " good " people do bad things.

  I understand that the brainwashing techniques used by the WT were devised in North Korea for political purposes

  Fear , paranoia and guilt are not exclusive to religion ( some religion ) .

  Most mainstream religions , even in the USA , do not produce these negatives in their followers

  

  The vicar at the time sent this as one of his daily emails to the congregation of my church ( apologies for my friends picture on the screen shot ) .

  Does that seem like someone trying to induce fear or guilt or anything other than a positive mental health attitude ?

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  Does christianity induce insanity?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is happening in western australian indigenous communities .... quote: "some american-based preachers are distributing emails and videos warning that covid-19 vaccines are evil and the work of satan, and the notion has infected some christian communities in the west australian outback.. veteran aboriginal health worker kathy watson said people spreading false information about the covid-19 vaccination and its links to the devil were "mad".".

  see more at: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/anti-vacc-church-speaks-out-against-misinformation/100430208.

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  Why do people ignore politics? It has been estimated that more people died because of Communism and Fascism than because of religious wars

  Hitler killed millions and so did Stalin . Not to mention communist regimes in Korea and Vietnam plus the Pol Pots and Idi Amins of the world .

  Political ideology is just as dangerous as religious fanaticism.

  Violent and unstable people will always find a " cause " to hitch their wagon to in order to legitimise what they do .

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  Does christianity induce insanity?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is happening in western australian indigenous communities .... quote: "some american-based preachers are distributing emails and videos warning that covid-19 vaccines are evil and the work of satan, and the notion has infected some christian communities in the west australian outback.. veteran aboriginal health worker kathy watson said people spreading false information about the covid-19 vaccination and its links to the devil were "mad".".

  see more at: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/anti-vacc-church-speaks-out-against-misinformation/100430208.

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  Do what? Aren't with us any more ?

  Don't talk daft, Leo painted my lounge walls yesterday.

  The ceiling's not bad either , he bought his mate Michelangelo with him .

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  Does christianity induce insanity?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is happening in western australian indigenous communities .... quote: "some american-based preachers are distributing emails and videos warning that covid-19 vaccines are evil and the work of satan, and the notion has infected some christian communities in the west australian outback.. veteran aboriginal health worker kathy watson said people spreading false information about the covid-19 vaccination and its links to the devil were "mad".".

  see more at: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/anti-vacc-church-speaks-out-against-misinformation/100430208.

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  Punk , l could belong to that tribe, if you include choc eclairs.

  Politics, celebrities for the ugly . Ouch . 😂.

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  Does christianity induce insanity?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is happening in western australian indigenous communities .... quote: "some american-based preachers are distributing emails and videos warning that covid-19 vaccines are evil and the work of satan, and the notion has infected some christian communities in the west australian outback.. veteran aboriginal health worker kathy watson said people spreading false information about the covid-19 vaccination and its links to the devil were "mad".".

  see more at: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/anti-vacc-church-speaks-out-against-misinformation/100430208.

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  As a Christian l would like to point out that

  A) it's American based opposition to vaccines. not surprising given all the conspiracy theorists there

  B) it's not just religious folks spreading this stuff . See WTWizards post above

  C) religion produces insanity, my friends Napoleon and DaVinci totally agree with me that this is not true .

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  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News

  by ballistic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

  this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.

  the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..

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  Earnest, thank you for that. I know that l let emotion take over from reason when l posted and l did wonder if l had gone a bit far .

  I would hope that lessons were learnt from this.

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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
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  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  Thanks Disillusioned. Yes l am in the UK . I am an Anglican and again l find all this quite bemusing. The Anglican church is very Bible based. I am doing the readings and prayers for the evensong service tonight and l have 2 OT passages to read.

  All sermons, who ever gives them, are Bible based . I attend a Bible study group in which we read a passage from the Bible and discuss it .

  As l said l don't know any young earth creationists . I still think that all Christians are creationists as in we believe in a creator.

  Also there are lots of scientists, l have named 3 of many who are Christians.

  I agree with Sea Breeze that this is not a salvation issue and l won't argue about it . I am just surprised at the figures .

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  No more Questions from MINIMUS

  by was a new boy in

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  minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.

  joined 19 years ago.

  started 4,139 topics.

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  RIP Minimus . Such sad news .

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  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News

  by ballistic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.

  this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.

  the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..

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  Earnest, you are saying that it took from 2006 to 2018 for this abuse to be reported!!!!. When the victim said that the abuse hadn't stopped !!!!! .

  That is deemed acceptable? What was happening to the victim during all that time ? Did any one care ?

  You say this as if that lets the WT off the hook . You cannot seriously believe that they acted responsibly .

  Sorry , l know that l am being very confrontational but maybe it needs that to highlight everything that is wrong with that statement.

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  Is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the WT, charlatanism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is most of the promotion of creationism, not just that by the wt, charlatanism?.

  https://www.fullmoon.nu/sources.bak/chapter%2010/part%202/gish%20exposed.html [which has an article called "creationism: bad science or immoral pseudoscience?

  - (an expose of creationist dr. duane gish)"] says the following.. 'a look at the "scientific" creationist movement and a close examination of the tactics of a well-known and influential creationist will reveal that the creation "science" movement gains much of its strength through the use of distortion and scientifically unethical tactics.. .... with the facts explained and the lawsuits won, scientists declared victory and returned to their labs and offices.

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  I would like to add that surely all Christians are creationists as we all believe in a creator .

  So is it more old earth vs young earth ?

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