Posts by jhine

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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory

by Terry in

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"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.

the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.

jhine

It appears that people think that l took Citalopram because basically l couldn't be bothered to "do " anything for myself. " when you are depressed you don't care for mental health " . Well l did care , l cared a lot . I could see how worried family and friends were . I didn't like feeling as l did . In fact l hated it and wanted to feel differently.

When once the medication broke the cycle of low mood , no sleep , no energy , low mood l started to get out . I did all that stuff , well maybe not run but out walking getting fresh air and sunshine. I just wanted that kick start out of the cycle .

Jan

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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory

by Terry in

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friends

"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.

the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.

jhine

Terry it's sad that you had a negative experience with medication but as l and others have said it can be very effective. You said that you went to a therapist, not sure what you mean by that.

I can only say that my British GP was very careful in diagnosing and treating my low mood depression. As has been said depression has many causes and depths of severity. I was never suicidal .

I was carefully monitored and had no side effects, other than feeling nauseous for the first couple of days.

There was no way on earth that l could have gone running or taken part in any form of physical exercise. I simply had no energy whatsoever because of lack of sleep and the vicious cycle of feeling low

Citalopram broke that cycle .

Jan

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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory

by Terry in

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friends

"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.

the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.

jhine

I understand where you are all coming from but again l would say that until you've been there........

I wasn't put on Citalopram straight away , l had lots of talks with the doc and senior nurse at the practice first. Then l was carefully monitored and told that in some patients it can cause suicidal thoughts so l was well aware of that . The doc made sure that it suited me before putting it on repeat . He described my condition as , in layman's terms, l had been sad for so long my brain had forgotten how to be happy.

I really don't know how exercise , diet etc would have helped. I wasn't sleeping so had no energy. physical or mental to exercise with and had a good diet anyway . I can only say that it worked for me . I am now back to how l was, active, laughing and loving life.

Jan

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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory

by Terry in

jw
friends

"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.

the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.

jhine

Even if the Citalopram had a placebo effect ( a big if ) it did me no harm and helped me .

How do you suggest that l could have been treated for my low mood depression ( not the same as clinical depression- at no time did l feel suicidal) ?

Given that as a Brit l didn't have to pay for my medication at point of contact as it was on the NHS l was happy to try it .

In fact how do you suggest that anyone suffering from depression of any kind be treated without drugs ? .

Jan

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ANTI-DEPRESSANT medication for the last 60 years now proved to be based on poorly supported false theory

by Terry in

jw
friends

"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.

the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.

jhine

After nursing my first husband through cancer and then losing him l was diagnosed with low mood depression. I was prescribed Citalopram which worked very well. After maybe 10 months l came off it with no problems.

So anti-depressants worked for me . Don't knock em till you've tried em.

Jan

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JW's are the SAME as other Christians....

by BoogerMan in

...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .

john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

5:10, 2 tim.

jhine

Mum l totally agree .

I am the TCC member for my church , as in the specific church that l attend. TCC is a group called Tamworth Covenanting Churches. This group brings together ALL the churches in Tamworth to work together. Anglicans, Catholics, Baptists etc . Projects have included setting up accommodation for homeless people during winter months.

The only groups as far as l know that aren't part of it are JWs and Mormons. JWs in particular will not mix with other groups even to do good works , but ya'll know that.

More and more different denominations are coming together finding common ground in their beliefs.

Yes judgement does still happen but less and less .

Very fair question Punky , yes l may be wrong in my specific beliefs. I can only go with what seems right to me when l read my Bible. In our individual study groups we use material from lots of different sources and hopefully are open to learn and grow in wisdom , love and faith.

Jan

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

jhine

In the OT Psalm 110 uses Yahweh for the Lord who days to my Lord

In the NT where the Psalm is quoted Kyrios is used not Yahweh ( Jehovah) . As we know Yahweh is not used at all despite what the Witnesses say .

Also Jerry says to Tom " touche Pussy Cat " many times in the cartoons.

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Vienne----------Smiles----------Atlantis!

by Atlantis in

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vienne:.

from time to time we do this vienne.

if grandpa wrote something that sounded uncomfortable or was too harsh, then you just let old grandpa apologize right up front with no questions asked.

jhine

Aah l understand now . Yes striving for peace is very important.

Jan

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Vienne----------Smiles----------Atlantis!

by Atlantis in

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friends

vienne:.

from time to time we do this vienne.

if grandpa wrote something that sounded uncomfortable or was too harsh, then you just let old grandpa apologize right up front with no questions asked.

jhine

Confused elderly Aunt here, l don't understand the context of the OP , although l agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment.

Jan

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What Name Does the New Testament Emphasize - Jehovah or Jesus?

by Vanderhoven7 in

it seems to me scripturally speaking, that jehovah's witnesses are emphasizing the wrong name.. it should be jesus, not jehovah.

who is the way, the truth and the life?

(john 14:6).

jhine

GB l haven't read all of your posts but you mention

" l have other sheep not of this fold .......and they will become one flock with one shepherd "

How's about the other sheep are Gentiles? Jesus was talking to Jews who believed up to that point that only they were God's people.

Jesus was saying that Gentiles would be saved by His blood too and all who are saved Jew and Gentile would be one flock.under one shepherd, Jesus.

Apologies to any who has already mentioned this . As l said l haven't read all of this extensive thread.

Jan