joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
Joao , Punk's correct . I asked direct questions requiring direct answers and didn't get them. You won't either .
Anna does seem very very confused on where she stands regarding the Org.
Punk may well be right about her needing help .
Anna if you read this please seek out someone, not a JW , who you can talk to about your issues . Particularly the abuse that you mentioned.
Jan
it's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
Hi Noni , my Condolences on the loss of your Mom .
I'm British and , l suppose , a Royalist. I too feel very sad about the Queen's death . She was a constant in all our lives, the one person always " there " . I'm 66 and my own Mum died a few years ago .
Maybe seeing and hearing how loved Her Maj was by her children makes you sad that you didn't have that with your Mom .
It's probably had that effect on anyone whose relationship with a parent wasn't as they would have liked . You aren't on your own in that respect.
Jan
joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
Anna as often happens in discussions with JWs you are ignoring the pointed questions. The ones about the false prophecies, which make them false prophets according to God's word .
The ones about encouraging people to sell houses and cars and donate the money to the preaching work pre '75 .
The ones about non of that money being returned when Armageddon didn't happen .
Who says that Jehovah gave His name to the Org ? Well they do .
I could CLAIM that Jehovah has made me His representative on earth and take hundreds of thousands of pounds off people . It wouldn't make it fact
Jan
i am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.
Punky l am delighted to agree to disagree in a non disagreeable manner with your disagreement. Sounds very grown up and reasonable and does appear to be agreeable to you .
Actually Tamuff is ok . You very rarely hear of any incidents especially not stabbings. There are enough Tamworth social media sites to ensure that stuff gets round .
The big hoo ha of late has been some travellers around the area.
You are still very welcome to attend our 5pm sung Evensong service . If you came then l think that you would agree that it's most agreeable
Agreeably yours Jan
My Granddaughter once told JWs at her door that the family were devil worshippers. Funnily enough they never had another call .
Jan
i am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.
I have to disagree Punky . Looking at the State of America right now Blighty is wonderful.
Compared to many countries we are Paradise. We have roofs over our heads , food every day , education and healthcare. Millions can only dream of that .
Yes we have our problems , every country does but l don't think that ours are as bad as many .
Jan
here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
NO ONE EVER SAID that the vaccine would prevent covid or stop it's spread. It reduced the effects. Less deaths , fewer hospitalisations . Hospitals were crammed with patients on ventilators thus beds for other patients weren't available.
Yes people are still catching it but the effects have been no where near as bad and far fewer deaths and hospitalisations are occurring
I refer again to America and the much higher rates of death among the GOP states where the uptake on vaccination was much lower.
Here in Blighty death rates ( from covid) have consistently dropped as more and more people have been vaccinated.
Interestingly l have heard of a few people feeling unwell for a time after being jabbed but no one dying.
Jan
here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
Bettyhumpter thank you . Vaccines haven't wiped out polio., smallpox , child deaths from measles have they ? Polio was an awful plague on society ( literally) . Only the use of vaccines eradicated it .
What short memories people have . Measles was a killer at one time . Now it's a week off school and some spots . Because of the child vaccination programmes .
All the people on here be grateful if your parents had the sense to have you vaccinated against these one time killers.
A few years ago some parents refused to get children vaccinated and that resulted in children being hospitalised for what should have been minor illnesses. This was because of the rumour mill Fb , Twitter etc . Doctors had to campaign again to stop this.
Jan
we seem to be if a more secular society here in the west, these days.
i'm speaking from the uk.. with the lack of belief in god/s, i'm wondering if all the seeming (note: i said seeming!
), deification of people like greta thunberg, george floyd and celebs amongst others, if people who have no real belief system, are filling the gap left by god with people?.
I think that it's very possible.
Jan
here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
Mike , you really should be listening to Stan here . As an elder , even a PIMA , elder , you should know how hard they come down on people who disobey the rules .
You haven't made any comment about my observations concerning the video . Is this because you can't rebut my points .
I wouldn't give medical advice to anyone. I am not a trained healthcare worker, it would not be my place to do that .Neither is it yours or the GBs
. I am not a JW nor ever have been . Their opinions don't matter to me personally at all . It seems to me that your anti vax campaign is more about bringing the Watchtower down so why not just leave?
I noticed that you said that you had a pregnant wife and YOU chose to go against the GBs direction. Didn't your wife get any say in the matter ?
I say again if you are so convinced that the GB are not led by Jehovah ( on which we do agree ) why not leave ?
You haven't answered my question about all of the world's governments being in cahoots over this vaccine scandal. Is that really happening?
Also what about my statement that as in the population at large the women dying from covid are mainly the unvaccinated. Another co-ordinated lie ?
Also the hugely disproportionate amount of unvaccinated people dying in red states. Any vaccine does carry some risk, that is not disputed. However the risk of dying from covid is far greater .
Jan
