Posts by jhine

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Research paper on Effects of Shunning

by peacefulpete in

after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.

many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.

i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.

jhine

Ozzie, l know what you mean . I only know about the WT from being on this site . It's taken me a long time to even try to get my head round how they operate.

When l make comments to my fellow Anglicans about this l get funny looks and it's clear that they think that l must be exaggerating.

It saddens me that most ex JWs seem to see all Christian denominations through the prism of the Watchtower. My experience in Christendom, probably like yours and Mrs Ozzie , bears no relation to the experience of JWs .

So , no , l can't begin to understand how being under the control of the GB affects people emotionally and spiritually.

Jan

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Older Sister Disfellowshipped

by EmptyInside in

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friends

my brother told us that sr. so and so ,was disfellowshipped.

now ,she is in her late 60's.

i just had a feeling it was for apostasy.

jhine

That took a lot of courage, well done sister.

Jan

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Older Sister Disfellowshipped

by EmptyInside in

jw
friends

my brother told us that sr. so and so ,was disfellowshipped.

now ,she is in her late 60's.

i just had a feeling it was for apostasy.

jhine

So what is likely to happen to sister x ? You think that her son is mentally out at least, so won't shun .

Will she be abandoned by everyone else in the congregation?

Jan

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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?

by the-MadJW in

i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.

jhine

Vienne may l ask are you basing your opinion of Baptists on the Westboro Baptists? I think that certainly British Baptists are quite different.

I get the IMPRESSION ( I'm not American so don't have first hand knowledge) that American religion generally is more er strict or extreme.

US JWs seem a bit more dogmatic than their British counterparts , who are harsh enough.

It's a shame that the Westboro mob get so much media time and then taint Christianity in the eyes of many .

Jan

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Research paper on Effects of Shunning

by peacefulpete in

after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.

many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.

i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.

jhine

Joe is that a dreadful thing ? Didn't Jesus tell his disciples to

" go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit "

Didn't Jesus die for everyone?

If Caucasians don't want to go to church that's their choice

Jan

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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?

by the-MadJW in

i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.

jhine

ReasonFirst l am genuinely impressed by your search for knowledge. I never meant to give offence, l never do mean to l just sometimes inadvertently manage it

It's just that time and again when someone is searching or questioning then non believers point them to anti Christian material.

As a Christian l wouldn't want to stop someone looking at both sides it would be wrong of me to do so . However l do say look at both sides.

You clearly have , but many of those who are just leaving the WT haven't. They only know the GBs version of Christianity. Although many on here tend to lump all Christian denominations together. I really don't see any similarities at all with the Watchtower. You obviously know how different the other groups are to JWism and have rejected all choices. But you knew what you were rejecting.

To make an informed decision someone needs to find out about all the options, including atheism .

Jan

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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?

by the-MadJW in

i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.

jhine

Reasonfirst did you also read literature that presents the Christian perspective? We all tend to be guilty of conformation bias.

Enough l don't know where you are in the world, are you American? You seem to have had contact with churches that are very dogmatic in their views.

I'm a member of the Church of England ( l have never been a JW ) and l am perfectly free to say that l have a different idea about such and such .

Yes in funerals , particularly those of people who never came to church when alive , sometimes the mourners are given comfort by the thought that their relatives are in a " better place " . It helps them in their grief.

Yes we celebrate Christmas but what is sooo awful about that? It sounds like a case of taking the boy out of the WT etc .

We all have different thoughts on some things but no one falls out and no one gets thrown out .

Jan

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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?

by the-MadJW in

i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.

jhine

Enough may l ask what are the lies of the mainstream churches and what do you listen to / watch on YouTube that is different?

Jan

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Research paper on Effects of Shunning

by peacefulpete in

after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.

many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.

i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.

jhine

Aren't Indians and Philippinos locals as in they live locally ?

Jan

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Research paper on Effects of Shunning

by peacefulpete in

after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.

many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.

i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.

jhine

I've read through this thread a few times now and watched the video

Cofty l agree that the WT does absolutely deliberately control people. On this forum l read a post about a book written by a chap ( I'm getting there) about brain washing techniques. I think that it was around 12 specific techniques used by communist authorities have been identified. The WT uses most of them . That can't be a coincidence.

As to other denominations being as active as JWs well in terms of doing face to face preaching like door knocking or carts that's true . Howevet the video gives lots of examples of ways in which Trinitarian churches are pro active in the community. Food and hygiene banks, debt advice , helping homeless people in practical ways. JWs are actively discouraged from charitable work .

There may be less bums on seats but those there WANT to be there . They aren't there because of threats of shunning.

The WT seems to do it's usual trick of cherry picking verses to make the case for shunning and also to back up their " God given authority " . I see no case to be made for shunning or for any one person or group having the authority to rule people's lives and then ruin them if they are not fully obeyed in the Bible .

Jan