May l ask is your spouse pimi ? Is that why you are in this quandary?
Jan
i am a pimo, inactive, parent of an underage child.
i was wondering what rights i have in regards to avoid that my child will be baptized when still underage, not having read the entire bible and before being able to clearly evaluate all the alternatives and consequences (like it happened to me) whereas the other pimi parent has all the rights to do it.
any experiences about children in a pimi vs pimo parents situation?
May l ask is your spouse pimi ? Is that why you are in this quandary?
Jan
study article 19. how can we strengthen our faith in jehovah’s promise of a new world?.
17 many servants of jehovah have applied jehovah’s counsel to “keep in expectation”—even for decades.
louise, for example, began serving jehovah in 1939. she says: “at that time, i thought armageddon would come before i finished high school.
Beth I'm not sure if we're at cross purpoises here .
My point was that the uncertainty doesn't keep us focused on a group but on God .
I may be misunderstanding your comment.
Jan
unintended consequences of isolationhowdy and good morning boss!.
please excuse my flamboyant greeting.
i’m only following orders.
Terry you would be perfectly correct in your assumption.
Jan
i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
Reason , l agree that there always have been and always will be bad behaviour in churches to one degree or another. I don't believe that this makes one group less " religious " than another.
It's human nature, Christians are growing in spiritual maturity , or should be , all the time . The Bible refers to baby Christians and those who are more mature in the faith.
In regards to Henry and Elizabeth l believe that their actions were much more political in nature than religious.
Ambitious people have often used religion as a " beard " for their self serving actions .
Not unlike what is happening in America now .
Jan
study article 19. how can we strengthen our faith in jehovah’s promise of a new world?.
17 many servants of jehovah have applied jehovah’s counsel to “keep in expectation”—even for decades.
louise, for example, began serving jehovah in 1939. she says: “at that time, i thought armageddon would come before i finished high school.
I think that Bible teaching about money boils down to " the LOVE of money is the root of all evil " etc . It's about our attitudes to money . I don't believe that we have to bankrupt ourselves or give up careers but not worship money . Always be good stewards and be willing to help those less fortunate. Not be willing to do anything to get money , like cheat others .
The rich young man was used as an example of this . He clearly had an emotional attachment to his wealth that came before his love of God .
That seems to me to be the point . Nothing wrong with having money as long as it's gained ethically and isn't more important to us than our relationship with God . Jesus and the disciples were bankrolled in part by rich people .
Yes the Bible does give the impression sometimes that Armageddon is just around the corner. However it states categorically that NO ONE, except the Father, knows the date .
My feeling is that the uncertainty is to keep our minds focused on God , not necessarily the church, so that we keep going forward in our faith.
Again l see a clubbing together of the Watchtower and other? Christian groups in regards to how members are treated. I can only speak with authority about the Church of England but our lives are not micro managed by any person.
My thoughts for what they are worth
Jan
unintended consequences of isolationhowdy and good morning boss!.
please excuse my flamboyant greeting.
i’m only following orders.
Ooookaaay, makes perfect sense , to somebody.
Jan
my brother told us that sr. so and so ,was disfellowshipped.
now ,she is in her late 60's.
i just had a feeling it was for apostasy.
That's what l was thinking . Not easy at any age but when you're no spring chicken even harder.
Jan
after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.
many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.
i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.
Ozzie, l know what you mean . I only know about the WT from being on this site . It's taken me a long time to even try to get my head round how they operate.
When l make comments to my fellow Anglicans about this l get funny looks and it's clear that they think that l must be exaggerating.
It saddens me that most ex JWs seem to see all Christian denominations through the prism of the Watchtower. My experience in Christendom, probably like yours and Mrs Ozzie , bears no relation to the experience of JWs .
So , no , l can't begin to understand how being under the control of the GB affects people emotionally and spiritually.
Jan
my brother told us that sr. so and so ,was disfellowshipped.
now ,she is in her late 60's.
i just had a feeling it was for apostasy.
That took a lot of courage, well done sister.
Jan
my brother told us that sr. so and so ,was disfellowshipped.
now ,she is in her late 60's.
i just had a feeling it was for apostasy.
So what is likely to happen to sister x ? You think that her son is mentally out at least, so won't shun .
Will she be abandoned by everyone else in the congregation?
Jan