Posts by jhine

if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

jhine

To be fair to the Catholic church l would imagine that the nasty behaviour described was probably down to that particular Priest.

The Priests at my local Catholic church are very nice and the church does a lot work in the community. This includes having a full time worker helping addicts and alcoholics.

This is in stark contrast to the " vast amount of community work " done by JWs .

Jan from Tam.

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Facts or Biasedness?

by Ardian in

the watchtower and awake have been listed as the most popular magazines.the figures are astonishing.

i am not sure whether it is based on reality or not.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.

i have seen the link on many social media networks.

jhine

A , very , quick search of most popular magazines worldwide gave this top 10 list .

1 Best

2 Reader's Digest

3 Time

4 National Geographic

5 Vogue

6 People

7 Good Houskeeping

8 Cosmo

9 Better Homes and Gardens

10 Elle

I really cannot see anyone who is not a JW reading even a free copy of Watchtower, never mind paying for one .

Jan from Tam

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American Healthcare: How your system works

by Diogenesister in

canada has universal healthcare.

the consensus is that america never will.

can anyone explain why, please?

jhine

TonusH thank you for explaining that .

Peacefulpete , sorry to hear that you lost your sister too young . It is just such an alien idea that someone can be left with huge debts for healthcare . Also that the hospital staff had to help her get funding. The last thing that you need when given such a devastating diagnosis is to have to fight bureaucracy.

I had breast cancer and it was a trip to the GP who referred me to an oncologist . He prescribed a lumpectomy, then chemo and further surgery. All straightforward no forms to fill in , no worries about finances.

Jan from Tam.

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American Healthcare: How your system works

by Diogenesister in

canada has universal healthcare.

the consensus is that america never will.

can anyone explain why, please?

jhine

Littlerockguy it's great that uninsured people can get treatment. Could you clarify what type of treatment please? Is it just emergency treatment? If an uninsured person needs expensive long term cancer treatment for instance would they get it ?

If an uninsured person has a bad accident and needs an ambulance is that paid for ? If they are taken to the closest hospital which doesn't happen to accept non insured people would they be sent on to a hospital that does ?

Jan from Tam

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American Healthcare: How your system works

by Diogenesister in

canada has universal healthcare.

the consensus is that america never will.

can anyone explain why, please?

jhine

Hi folks , I'm back . Sorry if it seemed that l done a disappearing act . I've just been really busy organising a local event .

Anony Mous LUHE is perfectly correct in what he states. The government does not have anything to do with running the NHS .

So some people say that part of the reason they go bankrupt is illness or accident. That has naff all to do with paying medical bills. We DO NOT GET THEM FROM THE NHS . Probably these people are are maxed out on credit cards or have loans that they now cannot pay .

On the other hand Americans can still get huge bills for healthcare even if they have insurance.

People over 80 are NOT denied treatment in the UK , there are NO death panels or covid concentration camps .

You mention communists and l think that this is the problem. Some Americans are so petrified of communism that Republicans only have to breathe that word in the same sentence as universal healthcare and it becomes the devil's plaything.

I like the system that my country has. It makes no odds to me how other countries do it . I do know that Americans who have fallen foul of the US system would swap in a heartbeat.

LUHE l agree that the NHS does need an overhaul. I did misunderstand what you were saying , sorry . I feel that the calls that we get for more money to be injected in are misguided. The money that is handed over just needs to be used more efficiently.

However the NHS doesn't have the problem of being ripped off by Big Pharma which American hospitals do

Jan from Tam

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American Healthcare: How your system works

by Diogenesister in

canada has universal healthcare.

the consensus is that america never will.

can anyone explain why, please?

jhine

LUHE , l agree that the NHS can be run much more efficiently, but I'm not sure that is the government's ( any government's) fault .

Which governments repossess your house for not paying for your " free " healthcare? Certainly not in the UK .

I don't know where the NHS gets it's insulin but it does get it because thousands of diabetics receive it . Some may have to a prescription charge , but that is a lot less than in America. My prescriptions are free because of my age so I am not sure about the exact cost , around a tenner l think . Pensioners, children and those on certain benefits get it free .

What bills do people get in the UK ? Believe me I've had chemotherapy and surgery, including reconstructive surgery , my husband and son had extensive treatment for cancer, quickly and with no charge .

I have never heard of anyone being charged for NHS healthcare and at my age l know plenty of folk who are having treatment for health problems.

I'm not quoting socialist propaganda, it's my and my family and my friends' own experiences after 67 years of living with the NHS .

Jan from Tam

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American Healthcare: How your system works

by Diogenesister in

canada has universal healthcare.

the consensus is that america never will.

can anyone explain why, please?

jhine

Hospitals in America are more expensive to run than anywhere else because they are ripped off by pharmaceutical companies and have to pay top dollar for everything.

The NHS is the largest pharmaceutical customer in the UK because it buys in bulk for all hospitals. So it can haggle and cut drug prices.

Also the NHS doesn't spend a fortune on pen pushers in offices calculating bills.

Cancer treatment isn't considered elective surgery, where did that come from ? I had breast cancer and my husband had a cancerous tumour on a kidney. We were both treated very quickly.

Much of what you have said is GOP propaganda. And people shouldn't go bankrupt and sell their homes to stay alive .

Jan from Tam