Nicolaou , well as has been pointed out things like Jesus walking on water were counted as miracles because people knew that scientifically this was impossible.
Jan from Tam
Posts by jhine
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by ExBethelitenowPIMA injob 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.
the north pole has the earth under it?.
the south pole has empty space under it?.
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Were Bible writers flat earthers?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injob 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.
the north pole has the earth under it?.
the south pole has empty space under it?.
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Yes Punky , as you say theologians disagree. I think for what it's worth that the Bible, old and new , is about the relationship between God and man . I understand that some Jews see many layers to Torah. It's not meant to be principally a history or science book .
Jan from Tam.
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Were Bible writers flat earthers?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injob 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.
the north pole has the earth under it?.
the south pole has empty space under it?.
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I agree with road to nowhere , a lot of poetic license was used in the Bible. We present day folk tend to think of the ancients as ignorant goat herders. However archaeologists have found a lot of artefacts that prove otherwise.
Hubby and l watch a programme about strange items that have been found that puzzle historians. There is often speculation about the purpose of these items but for many it's usually the consensus that they are scientific in nature .
It does appear that even Bronze Age man knew a lot more than they are given credit for.
Jan from Tam.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos
by NotFormer ini was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
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Well it shows how we all make assumptions about others " judging books by their covers " Because, obviously, l am one of the nicest people ever .
Mine is a pretty bird and can only be seen in public when l wear a swimming costume. However my daughter and two granddaughters have ones that show . My daughter is a national manager with BT , a major company in the UK . My eldest Granddaughter works in payroll for a local bus company and the youngest is just off to uni .
Going back to the actual discussion didn't Jesus say that it's not what's on the outside but what goes on inside that counts ?
Why people who already have tatts should have to remove them is beyond me . Except that maybe having a tattoo shows a degree of individualism that won't be tolerated by the Org.
Jan from Tam.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos
by NotFormer ini was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
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jhine
Oh I've never been called riff raff before 🤣🤣🤣.
Jan from Tam.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos
by NotFormer ini was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
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jhine
I suspect that this issue, like many others, needs to be put into context. However in the particular case of tattoos it might not be possible.
It MAY be that the tattoos mentioned in the Old Testament are to do with the customs and practices of the " pagans " who surrounded the Israelites back then . It was a constant battle to keep the Jews separate from their neighbours and the religions of these people. To keep them Holy and solely fixed on Yahweh.
The Jews may have begun to emulate their neighbours and needed to be reminded where their loyalty should lie .
Jan from Tam.
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Why didn't God create us to be obviously different?
by SydBarrett ina silly question since i'm an atheist but one i thought of as a kid jw.
why weren't human's created to be obviously different from animals?
among believers there is some sort of universal hierarchy.
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FFGhost , I have obviously never fully taken this in 🙄 , JWs don't believe in evolution?
Is that an actual rule set out by the GB Thou shalt not believe in evolution.
Jan from Tam
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Why didn't God create us to be obviously different?
by SydBarrett ina silly question since i'm an atheist but one i thought of as a kid jw.
why weren't human's created to be obviously different from animals?
among believers there is some sort of universal hierarchy.
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FF Ghost evolution?
Jan from Tam
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Why didn't God create us to be obviously different?
by SydBarrett ina silly question since i'm an atheist but one i thought of as a kid jw.
why weren't human's created to be obviously different from animals?
among believers there is some sort of universal hierarchy.
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Evolution?
Jan from Tam
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Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.
mark jones writes:.
if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.
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To be fair to the Catholic church l would imagine that the nasty behaviour described was probably down to that particular Priest.
The Priests at my local Catholic church are very nice and the church does a lot work in the community. This includes having a full time worker helping addicts and alcoholics.
This is in stark contrast to the " vast amount of community work " done by JWs .
Jan from Tam.