Am l missing something here ? The words MANDATED SHUNNING is in capital letters 6 times in the OP . I looked at the website and it clearly says that it's mandated shunning that it proposes to outlaw.
Jan from Tam
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125Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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jhine
I don't think that making forced shunning illegal would take away an individual's rights to avoid people they don't like .
It would simply stop people like the GB of the Org. from forcing people to shun against their will .
It won't mean that people can be forced to associate with someone they don't trust or like or have nothing in common with .
Jan from Tam.
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If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?
by TxNVSue2023 ineven though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).
i still belive this is the truth.
i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.
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jhine
I don't think that Sue really wants answers. I'm starting to suspect that she is trying to bring us all into the Org.
I noted before, and will again , every time she gets argument against the Org ( or even good reasoning) she ignores all the advice that she " asked " for and starts another thread .
Jan from Tam
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Retirement savings
by TxNVSue2023 inwhat's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
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Going off piste for moment, Sue what do you think of the 1975 debacle? Does that show that the Org. are false prophets ?
Most people on here are out of the Watchtower, some because of the false prophecies.
Back on piste what on earth has anyone's finances got to do with the GB ?
Jan from Tam
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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I've just checked and l joined roughly 11 years ago so , yes , it would be after you left .
Jan from Tam
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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jhine
Tonus I thought that there were always two different Watchtowers . Comments on here puzzled me so l asked the question and was told that the study one is different from the less controversial public issue .
Jan from Tam
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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jhine
From this site l became aware that the Watchtower that is sold to the public is very different to the study Watchtower. I also found out about Theocratic Warfare so l tested it out.
I was talking to two JW ladies many years ago and , pointing to the Watchtower one of them was holding, asked " so this is what you use in your meetings at the Kingdom Hall ? "
The older lady immediately answered yes . The other lady must have seen my face and quickly said " no the one we use to study is different "
It was only because l obviously knew differently that l got the truth.
One incident that was upsetting was while talking to another JW at my door l mentioned this and quoted the Scripture about Satan being the father of all lies and asked how she felt about that. She literally ran from my door crying. I had obviously touched a nerve and l suppose cognitive dissonance came into play .
She knew l was correct, she couldn't deny the Scripture but couldn't face that the Org. could be wrong .
Sue if you are reading this that is brainwashing at it's best.
Jan from Tam.
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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?
by Fisherman inare we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?
if this is true then how long should it take?
as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.
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jhine
Sue , because of fallen human nature the world has always been basically rotten. No difference now , it was the same when Jesus was alive . Like l said He happily mixed with sinners, He loved them and came to die for them ( and us ) . He wasn't judgemental therefore neither should we be judgemental.
We are charged with preaching the good news that Jesus died to pay the price for all our sins . We are not charged with telling some people that their sins are worse than other people's. Neither are we to adopt a holier than thou attitude. Paul called himself the worst of sinners all his life and very few of us get to do what Paul did .
I have noticed that when you encounter comments or advice that you don't want to hear you start a new thread. Why did you come on here and ask for advice only to ignore it all ?
Jan from Tam
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Disfellowshipped for Fornication
by TxNVSue2023 inhi i want to tell my story and get advice.
i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.
i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.
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jhine
Yes , it's so sad that they feel that they can hoodwink people into joining .
Jan from Tam
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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?
by Fisherman inare we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?
if this is true then how long should it take?
as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.
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Sue , oh dear, oh dear . I have just put a comment on your thread about your disfellowshipping .
I can now see why you are thinking of getting reinstated. You have the JW mindset through and through.
Didn't Jesus himself mix with sinners? Aren't we warned about being judgemental? The speck in someone else's eye etc?
They really have done a full brain washing job on you haven't they . You wrote on the other thread that you had lost your relationship with Jehovah, presumably because you fully equate the WT with Jehovah. News flash, they ain't the only, if at all , way to have a relationship with the Saviour.
Anyone who knows me on here will know that l am not normally so blunt in my comments. However you really need a good mental and spiritual shake up and help to break free from the Org's grasp.
I said in my other post get some knowledge and facts from INDEPENDENT research. In doing that honestly ask yourself what the Watchtower is so terrified of people finding out . They are terrified because any kind of independent thought or research is utterly discouraged.
Jan from Tam.