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  Does The WT Keep Files On ExJW Activists?

  by NotFormer in

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  it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.

  once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.

  (there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).

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  jhine

  Well l am neither an ex JW or deep thinker but it would be nice if the observations of an outsider in some way contributed to making a pimi have doubts . Jan from Tam
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  Dates and times

  by jhine in

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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  Yes Phizzy that's my take on it . I think that we always need to keep in mind that the letters were to specific congregations addressing the particular problems that they were experiencing. Some were internal disputes and behaviour, some external like persecution.

  Jan from Tam
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  by jhine in

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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  I have just reread that chapter and Paul mentions ' this present crisis ' not a near future apocalypse

  He also says that if you do marry you do no wrong . Just that it MIGHT be better not to given " this present crisis '

  Jan from Tam.
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  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  Ernest , the only reason that those people sold their homes was because the WT convinced them that , as you say , they were in the last remaining months.

  So when it all went wrong the WT should have apologised and made reparation

  The WT couldn't have KNOWN this as people believed because it didn't happen.

  Are you sure that no money was donated to the Org ? Any else want to say anything here ?

  Jan from Tam
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  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  Westiebilly11 l am really not sure about your assertion that the WT haven't deceived anyone. What about 1975 wasn't that deception ?

  They could not have KNOWN this because it didn't happen. You must know that faithful JWs sold houses and cars to donate the money to preaching work . Then when it didn't happen none of the money was paid back .

  You ask why would they do that , which was my question. So perhaps l have answered, in part at least , mine and your question.

  It's not just JWs who have done this of course. So maybe that is one motivation, getting money from followers.

  Jan from Tam
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  by jhine in

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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  Thanks Carla , l will read through this .

  When the question was asked at my study group my answer was that it ( setting dates ) is about control .

  Saying to followers that you dare not leave us now because Armageddon is coming . You don't want to chance being on the wrong side.

  Is that too simplistic ?

  Jan from Tam
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  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  Dio , yes it is Tamworth in Staffordshire are you close?

  Jan from Tam.
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  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  So did the 1975 date come from as far back as then. ?

  Jan from Tam
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  by jhine in

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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  So Pete , how would you answer the question? Why did the Org. do that , what was the motivation?

  Jan from Tam
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  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  last night at my bible study group we looked at 1thessalonians ch 5 .

  we have been working through the whole letter.

  verses 1-11 start with .

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  jhine

  Last night at my Bible study group we looked at 1Thessalonians ch 5 . We have been working through the whole letter.

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  " Now , brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you , for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night "

  It's all about just being ready every day because no one knows when the end will come.

  The question was asked " given that over the years people have tried to work out a date for the end what is the point of that? "

  What would your answer be to that?

  Jan from Tam