for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.
in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!
all jws partook.
Yes Waton , exactly. The idea that some people qualify to take the Bread and Wine and others don't just isn't in the Bible .
I agree the Bible can get complicated but really it's the Gospel ( good news ) message that's needs to be kept in focus at the heart of it all.
Christ died for our sins and rose again so that we don't have to die forever . Simples.
Jan
for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.
in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!
all jws partook.
Quite honestly l see no difference in eternal or everlasting or life without end etc . These divisions seem to have been made up by the WT . Looking at the Bible as a whole l don't see any evidence for a two tier system .
Where does Jesus, Paul or any of the other writers say " this teaching is for this group , not for that group " ? All the same teaching was given to everyone. Paul boasts that what he received from Christ is exactly what he passes on to ALL the followers.
These complications are just WT inventions to keep JWs in line and faithful. They feed the distrust of mainline churches who ' have it wrong '
That's my take on it .
Jan
in case you haven't heard, they just discovered the remains of some 215 dead children at a so called canadian residential school.
they couldn't call it a death-camp could they ... it would be too obvious.. these were where indigenous children were taken, forcibly, in order to "educate" them out of their native customs and languages and make them integrate with society.. unbelievably, this was still going on in the 60s to 90s.. of course the catholic church has their sticky fingers all over it.
what is it about those creepy bastards?
I have just been made aware ( via fb ) of a petition on CARE2petitions to demand a search for all unmarked graves on the sites of residential schools. I have signed and l think that some of you may like to do the same .
Jan
as usual there's a lot of serious shizzle being discussed on here .
i can only cope with so much serious , so here's something that's really not .
as some of you know l am getting married soon and organising the evening bash .
Stan l do use the word dance in a broad sense , as in any movement to music .
Jan
as usual there's a lot of serious shizzle being discussed on here .
i can only cope with so much serious , so here's something that's really not .
as some of you know l am getting married soon and organising the evening bash .
As usual there's a lot of serious shizzle being discussed on here . I can only cope with so much serious , so here's something that's really not .
As some of you know l am getting married soon and organising the evening bash . I love to dance and have a list of stuff that l would like played by the DJ .
All the usual cheese , macarena, cha cha slide . My question is what is the song that would get you on the dance floor ?
Jan
i found this experience on reddit today.
disfellowshipping never really bothered me.
i always thought it was just another way of getting rid of members that weren't welcome anymore.. but i've changed my mind.
LGH , their treatment of women really does seem appalling. I remember talking to an Elder about the Bible and he was so dismissive. I thought then that it was just because l wasn't a JW but l realise now it was also because l am a woman .
Jan
i found this experience on reddit today.
disfellowshipping never really bothered me.
i always thought it was just another way of getting rid of members that weren't welcome anymore.. but i've changed my mind.
So did you join the WT for a while ?
I gained an interest in JWs during doorstep chats when l realised how screwed some of their doctrine, not to mention their methods , are .
I actually learned a lot myself because sometimes l knew what they were saying was wrong but couldn't show them precise Biblical evidence to prove it .
So l dug deeper to find answers to their erroneous arguments.
Jan
i found this experience on reddit today.
disfellowshipping never really bothered me.
i always thought it was just another way of getting rid of members that weren't welcome anymore.. but i've changed my mind.
LHG , you have mentioned a couple of times the help that churchianity gives to people in need and how some JWs end up needing that help .
In my town. not far from me , is a place set up by the working together of a Christian charity and the local church to help young homeless people ( 16 - 25 ) . They provide accommodation and life lessons , like money management , as well as helping find work and permanent homes.
I know for a fact that at least one young man from a JW family has needed their help . I didn't find this out from TCHA but from his own grandmother, a local JW . She really didn't see the irony of this .
Jan
i found this experience on reddit today.
disfellowshipping never really bothered me.
i always thought it was just another way of getting rid of members that weren't welcome anymore.. but i've changed my mind.
Yes LGH , like Pete l meant no offence . However it would seem that JWs don't plan for old age and do seem to expect their children to take care of them . Which seems silly as everyone is encouraged to take low paid jobs or part time jobs and probably struggle to take care of themselves let alone other people.
Jan
i found this experience on reddit today.
disfellowshipping never really bothered me.
i always thought it was just another way of getting rid of members that weren't welcome anymore.. but i've changed my mind.
I think that not shunning children for the selfish reason that you might need their help when you get old isn't valid .
You choose to have children , they don't choose to be born or to have you as parents . What emotional damage does it do to those children to have their parents turn their backs on them ?
Jan
