Posts by jhine

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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

by Fisherman in

are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

if this is true then how long should it take?

as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

jhine

Sue , oh dear, oh dear . I have just put a comment on your thread about your disfellowshipping .

I can now see why you are thinking of getting reinstated. You have the JW mindset through and through.

Didn't Jesus himself mix with sinners? Aren't we warned about being judgemental? The speck in someone else's eye etc?

They really have done a full brain washing job on you haven't they . You wrote on the other thread that you had lost your relationship with Jehovah, presumably because you fully equate the WT with Jehovah. News flash, they ain't the only, if at all , way to have a relationship with the Saviour.

Anyone who knows me on here will know that l am not normally so blunt in my comments. However you really need a good mental and spiritual shake up and help to break free from the Org's grasp.

I said in my other post get some knowledge and facts from INDEPENDENT research. In doing that honestly ask yourself what the Watchtower is so terrified of people finding out . They are terrified because any kind of independent thought or research is utterly discouraged.

Jan from Tam.

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

jhine

I've not read all of the comments so apologies if l repeat something already said.

I have never been a JW l am a member of the Church of England , which is Anglican . I came onto this forum many years ago to learn more about Watchtower. Org .

I had spoken at length to JWs who knocked my door , something which l expect surprised and dismayed them in equal measure . Dismayed because l did often find fault in some of their scriptural reasoning .

I have learned so much from this forum. Not least the JW propensity to lie ( Theocratic Warfare) to gloss over the true nature of much of their teaching to unsuspecting possible members.

I have actually caught JWs out in lies when they didn't realise that l knew better than what l was being told.

That alone should put anyone off from being part of an organisation that needs to lie to get members.

Did you have a Christian faith before joining the Watchtower ? If so maybe do some independent research ( something that the Watchtower actively discourages!! ) and look at options . I would say don't rush into anything, definitely not trying for reinstatement, until you have more knowledge and facts at your disposal.

Jan from Tam.

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November 2023 Study Watchtower quotes Jesus!!!

by BoogerMan in

study watchtower november 2023 p. 13 par.

19 - "jesus foretold: “you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name.” (matt.

so true christians would be hated because of the name of jesus, not jehovah????.

jhine

So the Study Watchtower is still different to the Watchtower handed out to the public ?

Jan from Tam.

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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

by Fisherman in

are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

if this is true then how long should it take?

as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

jhine

Stoke Poges ? Are you telling me that it actually exists? I thought that it was just myth like El Dorado.

I remember some people thinking that Russia was where Armageddon would begin . Surely we should simply live our lives as if tomorrow was to be our last day and not indulge in idle speculation. The Bible warns against such things .

Jan from Tam.

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Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

by Fisherman in

are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

if this is true then how long should it take?

as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

jhine

Lastmanstanding why does it have to be about America. ?

We don't know when the last days will be only The Father knows .

Punky l once quoted the death and taxes thing to someone who replied , seriously

" Oh not really , I've ordered some that didn't turn up "

Jan from Tam.

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Theocratic Warfare

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

most of us know what theocratic warfare means but maybe very few people reading this forum might never heard of theocratic warfare.

can you give them some examples of theocratic warfare?

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jhine

So will a rank and file JW lie about lying ?

I once brought the subject up on Quora and an angry JW told me that basically l was talking rubbish.

Jan from Tam

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Were Bible writers flat earthers?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

the north pole has the earth under it?.

the south pole has empty space under it?.

jhine

Bible writers talked about mountains and trees praising God . In Isaiah 55 mention is made of " trees clapping their hands " . Now no one can think that even then people believed that trees had hands or mountains had voices . Do those verses prove that they did think that ? No .

Jan from Tam.

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Were Bible writers flat earthers?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

the north pole has the earth under it?.

the south pole has empty space under it?.

jhine

Nicolaou , well as has been pointed out things like Jesus walking on water were counted as miracles because people knew that scientifically this was impossible.

Jan from Tam

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Were Bible writers flat earthers?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

the north pole has the earth under it?.

the south pole has empty space under it?.

jhine

Yes Punky , as you say theologians disagree. I think for what it's worth that the Bible, old and new , is about the relationship between God and man . I understand that some Jews see many layers to Torah. It's not meant to be principally a history or science book .

Jan from Tam.

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Were Bible writers flat earthers?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

the north pole has the earth under it?.

the south pole has empty space under it?.

jhine

I agree with road to nowhere , a lot of poetic license was used in the Bible. We present day folk tend to think of the ancients as ignorant goat herders. However archaeologists have found a lot of artefacts that prove otherwise.

Hubby and l watch a programme about strange items that have been found that puzzle historians. There is often speculation about the purpose of these items but for many it's usually the consensus that they are scientific in nature .

It does appear that even Bronze Age man knew a lot more than they are given credit for.

Jan from Tam.