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  "The Bunker" episode

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you like criminal minds check out season 13 episode 6, the bunker.

  of course it borrows from cults in general but some jw similarities as well, such as emotional propaganda videos, us vs them, telling new converts that they're going to be persecuted and told lies about the organization, end of the world fear etc.. here's an idea: if you're pimo, watch it with a jw relative and watch the discomfort ensue 😏.

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  As Get Smart would say, "It's the old 1914 knock."
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  Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

  by joe134cd in

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  2. experiences

  i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

  this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

  will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

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  I don't identify as a J.W. now unless there is a P.I.M.I. around. If someone asks, I say I'm Christian.
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  False members numbers

  by asp59 in

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  2. experiences

  is watchtower faking there member numbers?

  i live in europe.

  for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

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  There are probably 2-3 million P.I.M.O.'s like me who are reporting Field Service time, but not preaching the J.W. doctrine anymore. To keep family relationships and to keep the elders off of our backs, this is what P.I.M.O.'s are doing. Throw in about 1 million teenagers who are biding their time to leave and the number of J.W.'s drop drastically! I haven't made any type contribution now for about 2 years.

  I realized years ago that headquarters was trying to prop up the numbers when older and infirmed could report as little as 15 minutes and be counted as a publisher. Now the C.O.'s are driving home the point that building work and L.D.C. duties are counted as sacred service.
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  JWs who are now paying the price of following the cult.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my in-laws are two such people.

  people who pioneered and did not work and try to save, instead they made just enough to get by and waited for the end to come.

  now my mil is in palliative care and the state is paying for her keep, my fil lives in a dilapidated home and can not keep it up.

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  I know of a fulltime pioneer sister, who became a J.W. after college. She turned town well paying jobs and did low paying, menial jobs. Pioneered over 40 years. She is now on government assistance, housing and the food stamp program. Gets the minimum social security and still has to work. Never married or had kids, and still tries to pioneer, even though she has health problems! But hey, Armageddon is right around the corner!
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  Question

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the probability that a religious organisation is used for money laundering?

  for example, large amounts of money are raised by the organization as a donation and then legally introduced into the financial system.

  is there any chance that jw.org is used for this kind of purpose?

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  It's true that requests are denied even when repairs are desperately needed. At one K.H. the carpet was in desperate need of replacing and the requests were repeatedly denied. When W.T. cleaned out the local accounts, our congregation forwarded nearly $40,000 that we were saving for a building project.
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  Just wondering

  by Iamallcool in

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  can someone with dementia get disfellowshipped?.

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  Yes someone with mental or emotional issues can be dealt with judicially. No one can make the Borg look bad and so they have to be dealt with! Our elder body years ago had a case where the sister exhibited multiple personalities. We were told to disfellowship the personality that got baptized and professed to being a J.W.
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  How can you have a deficit for a Circuit Assembly on Zoom??

  by pistolpete in

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  2. beliefs

  remember when after a circuit assembly the assembly overseer would come out right before the end of the assembly and make a special announcement;.

  "brothers, we have a financial deficit of $5,000 dollars for our circuit assembly.

  keep in mind that we have utilities and other expenses that need to be met.

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  At the Zoom Circuit Assembly a few weeks ago, it was obvious that the Assembly Overseer was embarrassed to make the announcement that there was a deficit. To add insult to injury the circuit sent about $5,000 surplus to headquarters from the last Zoom Assembly!
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  1914 Questions

  by sweetyj in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im not sure if this has already been asked here but i have some questions about 1914. if jesus arrived "invisibly" in the year 1914 why do the anointed partake of the emblems?

  why didn't they stop in 1914?.

  if jesus is ruling in heaven then why are the anointed still on earth?

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  Hi Atlantis! What format is Fred Franz' talk? I think I would like to have that.

  Thanks.
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  Will Christ Be Ashamed To Claim P.IM.O.'s?

  by IWant2Leave in

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  2. beliefs

  i started my fade about two years ago and at present i have no intention of writing a disassociation letter.

  the pros and cons of being p.i.m.o.

  have been discussed on this forum many times.

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  I am a P.I.M.O. I started my fade about two years ago and at present I have no intention of writing a disassociation letter. The pros and cons of being P.I.M.O. have been discussed on this forum many times. But for us flying under the radar, going along with W.T. teachings when we really don't believe, so that we can keep our family relationships, are we being cowards? Do you think that the Christ will disown us before his Father?

  (Mark 8:38)
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  Watchtower More Important than the Scriptures

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mack moore ex-jw recovery writes:.

  yes, that is how they want people to esteem the magazine.

  they believe it is the unique mouthpiece of god.

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  IWant2Leave

  This is so true that J.W.'s feel that the W.T. and the publications trump the Bible. On a judicial committee, as an elder, I brought in a scripture that I thought had a bearing on the case. My fellow elder told me that he didn't care what the scripture said, that he was going by what the Shepherd the Flock and the Watchtower had to say on the matter! Another instance is when I found out that the W.T. teaches that Christ is not the mediator for the other sheep. Reading the scripture concerning this at 1Tim 2:4, 5, it spoke to me, being of the other sheep, I felt that Christ is my mediator. My wife felt the same way as I did until she did research (if you can call it research) in the W.T. publications. She changed her mind and said that Christ is not her mediator.

  I was an elder for 25 years, so I'm guilty of getting on the platform at the Kingdom Halls, Circuit Assemblies, and Conventions and quoting W.T. publications as the authority. "God forgive me!"