Posts by IWant2Leave

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Anyone have an obvious gay or lesbian in the congregation?

by mickbobcat in

when i was a kid we had a kh with a basement and this guy joe winestien lived in it.

he has passed away i believe.

he was about 24 and used to hang around the young boys.

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I’ve known several. Some even went to Bethel, but got kicked out for watching gay porn and starting a romantic relationship with another brother. I know an elder who has admitted being gay but is fighting it. I know of an elder years ago that got caught with another gay man. The elder was a married man, his wife had a nervous break down after this became known.

Decades ago a sister could not divorce their husband if they were having a relationship with a man or even practicing bestiality. It was not considered grounds for a scriptural divorce.

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2021-September-COVID-Letter

by Atlantis in

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just in case anyone wants this letter.. 2021-september-covid-letter.

https://www.filemail.com/d/dwbakwnqsdjxrny.

atlantis!.

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Thanks Atlantis. You rock!

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GB / Wives ,wont voluntarily give up their lifestyle

by smiddy3 in

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just an observation viewing some of their on camera appearances , and their arrogance believing they are the only one`s used by god to reach and teach the people ,despite what gj said at the arc on the subject.. no doubt the gb men wear designer tailor made suits from the best tailors in nys ?

and their wives adequately provided for in a similar way ?

nothing from kmart or target ,walmart or whatever.. shoes are probably made from form fit cobblers to fit the individual ?

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Some of the traveling overseer's wives were on depression/anxiety medication. Sometimes c/o wife would disappear for a week or two. I found out a few years ago that there is a doctor/psychiatrist in Florida that treats c/o wives. Can you imagine hearing the same talk/jokes every week until he makes the first round of congregations, and then it starts all over, and this goes on for three years, and then the c/o moves to another circuit and the cycle begins again? As I think back, only one of the c/o wives that I met was really an outgoing gregarious person.

Most looked unhappy, probably wanted a family, and possibly P.I.M.O. That's enough to make anyone into a sour puss.

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I have never been to Las Vegas.

by Iamallcool in

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i would like to visit las vegas one day.

if you have a choice, would you want to live there?

low humidity sounds good to me.

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I have visited Vegas twice. It's a fun city and it has nice suburbs, nice manicured lawns in the area where we were once you get away from the Casino/tourist section. There are palm trees and mountains just a few miles from all the glitz. Some of the casinos have very good food at a reasonable price, drinks too. Their objective is to try to get you to gamble, but you don't have to if you don't want to.

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Just saw the segment on the 4 corners documentary involving Erwin Zaklin

by joe134cd in

two observations here.

(1) i just saw a segment on the 4 corners documentary involving erwin zalkin.

the u.s lawyer involved in the law suites against watchtower.

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Governing Body Update #7 is being played this week in place of the 15 minute part "Keep Training Your Powers of Discernment." There is a lot coming out about WT right now and the 8 Popes knew it was coming. They have delayed court cases in many places and now time has run out, it's either go to court or settle! WT does not want rank and file or even the elders watching what is going on. Someone mentioned that this could have the Streisand Effect. A phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information. I hope that it does have this effect.

P.S. I watched the 4 Corners documentary yesterday and I didn't hear any inaccurate statements!

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Ezekiel's Temple Vision Changed

by IWant2Leave in

it was nauseating to listen to the book study the past week on zoom.

old timers, and elders who have served for decades took the change of the vision in ezekiel chapter 40 thru 48 without blinking an eye.

just drank it down.

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Thanks Jeffro. It's good to know about that sight reviewing The Worship Book. I'll study this each week b4 the Congregation Book Study to get a balanced and accurate view of Ezekiel.

One thing that I do now and for the past two years, is to read the scriptures from another translation instead of the highlighted scriptures in the publications, which automatically takes you to the New World Translation. This is part of what helped me to wake up, seeing the changes that the Silver Sword (2013 NWT) have done versus other translations. When talking to co-workers about the Bible, I would quote a scripture, and they would say, "that's not in the Bible", or "that's not what that verse says". And after a short debate, I would look it up and even use the Diaglott or the Kingdom Interlinear, and what do you know, they were right. I used to think that the NWT was the most accurate translation. Boy was I mislead!

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Ezekiel's Temple Vision Changed

by IWant2Leave in

it was nauseating to listen to the book study the past week on zoom.

old timers, and elders who have served for decades took the change of the vision in ezekiel chapter 40 thru 48 without blinking an eye.

just drank it down.

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It was nauseating to listen to the Book Study the past week on Zoom. Old timers, and elders who have served for decades took the change of the vision in Ezekiel chapter 40 thru 48 without blinking an eye. Just drank it down. No questions asked and no critical thinking. Some were even laughing as they gave their comments about the new understanding. And of course the explanation was short on scriptural back up or proof. It's true that there is not a belief that a J.W. can have deep within their soul and heart that W.T. can't take away with the stroke of a pen and "new light!"

Now the understanding is that Ezekiel's vision is not the same as the spiritual temple that Paul talked about in the book of Hebrews, chapter 9. Why the change? I've started to read some of the older post hear to try to find out. There is more to come in the Book Study on this.

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Those members who passed away

by Gorb in

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who of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.

oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.

g..

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cofty10 months ago

I stopped posting after reading that post too.

I will continue to check in to catch the latest news from the insane world of the Watchtower.

I have mostly enjoyed years of conversation and debate here, as anyone can see from my history. I hope some of my threads on WT doctrine and science have helped some.

I can't no longer be part of the irrational and hateful environment that has come to dominate this forum

This was Cofty's last post

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Will there be enough good questions on JWD now that minimus is gone?

by slimboyfat in

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a thread in honour of our departed friend minimus.

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i’m fairly new here, and i too miss Minimus.

Maybe we will meet somewhere, someday.

No one living today can say with 100% certainty where we go when we die! That’s why i made the above statement. If you’re in heaven Minimus, ask lots of questions. God doesn’t mind! RIP

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Are you still a JW?

by Iamallcool in

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which one do you prefer?

zoom meetings or at the kingdom hall?

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PIMO. I don’t plan on going back once the K H’s re-open. I listen in on Zoom off camera, although i’m usually surfing the internet as the meeting is going on. If i attend the Memorial, i plan to partake!