Posts by problemaddict

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Awake February 2013: Where do they find these people?

by bats in the belfry in

professor massimo tistarelli:.

"my sister gave me a copy of the book life - how did it get here?

by evolution or by creation?

problemaddict

Well he may be a convert, and his field is in engeneering, not biology.

Its like my mechanic saying that I wrote a pretty nice thesis no?

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Weird rumor I heard - JWs in Sweden

by sir82 in

jw
friends

i heard this from a "friend of a friend of a friend...." at least 3 or 4 intermediate steps before i heard it.. so it is likely distorted, but i'll throw it out there in case someone in or near sweden can clarify it.. .

i heard that the wts branch in sweden instructed all jws there to "get rid of" all (empahasized all) of their printed literature, and rely exclusively on the content of jw.org for their literature.. .

that's the entire extent of it - i also got a few speculations about "what it might mean" (the society is expecting persecution!

problemaddict

Scandinavian countries take secular to an entirely new level. Nobody is converted, and JW's seem crazy to the general population. That being said, the JW's in Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are MUCH BETTER than the ones in the founding countries. Just by virtue of their surroundings, they are more reasonable and intelligent.

I don't know what announcement was made, but it is probably a misinterpretation or editorial on something. it isn't true they have been told to abandon literature.

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Brazilian waxing and JWs

by Bella15 in

jw
friends

with all the control they want to have over people's lives, i wonder if going brazilian down there (male or female) would be cause for readjustment???

lol i can see sister a telling the elders on sister b ... lol... i wonder what scriptures they would use to make their point across ... i know that for non-jw this would sound totally crazy but as an ex-jw i know that this is totally possible ....

problemaddict

Lol. Yeah I am pretty sure opinions run the gammut on this within JW's just like anywhere else.

Of course......as soon as I say that there will be a question from readers on it.

Something like, "Well do we want to give the appearance we are prepubescint? Would we be encouraging our mate to have pedophilia tendencies? Jehovah has blessed us with a rich bounty of pubes for a reason. They serve many functions including but not limited to trapping debris, and keeping the area warm and ripe for copulation with the intent of procreation. It is of note, that many stars of pornographic movies engage in such practice. Would it be proper for a Christian to engage in the same form of hair restriction around there genitals as those who dishonor God with the profane use of their bodies?"

Oh man......I am making myself laugh and could totally keep going.

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JW businessman's email about the UN and false religion

by Las Malvinas son Argentinas in

jw
friends

i was shown a hard copy of an email from a purported jw businessman who claimed he had contact with some un officials as part of his 'business'.

in conversation, he claimed that he blurted out and asked them when they were going to clamp down on religion as foretold in jw prophecy.

according to the account, the un official acted startled, and asked 'how do you know?'.

problemaddict

Oh man! I ALWAYS forget about this particular urban legen. The Nestle quik having blood in it stuck moreso. But yep......urban legend.

Pretty much anything that starts with so little information its verification is impossible = BS.

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Weird rumor I heard - JWs in Sweden

by sir82 in

jw
friends

i heard this from a "friend of a friend of a friend...." at least 3 or 4 intermediate steps before i heard it.. so it is likely distorted, but i'll throw it out there in case someone in or near sweden can clarify it.. .

i heard that the wts branch in sweden instructed all jws there to "get rid of" all (empahasized all) of their printed literature, and rely exclusively on the content of jw.org for their literature.. .

that's the entire extent of it - i also got a few speculations about "what it might mean" (the society is expecting persecution!

problemaddict

I can confirm this is not true. I have been to Sweden twice and maintain friendships in the area.

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not ready to go over to the "dark side"

by nowwhat? in

after spending a lifetime in it, no one is as fed up with the wt as i am.

[my golf game would have been a hell of alot better if i was'nt banging my head against the wall on saturdays!

lol ] this forum has taught me alot more than i thought to confirm my suspicions.

problemaddict

Hey CA,

I read Coftys link you provided. While I appreciate it is simply a commentary, the translation of his quotes is not provided, and there is a quite abit of assumption in the redux. I personally reject the doctine of the Trinity, but also think it isn't worth an arguement over when you understand what Christian faiths usually teach as opposed to the modalism that the WT usually addresses.

That being said, I think the nature of the relationship of the father and son is one best described by....well......father and son. So that is how I view them. I try not to overcomplicate it.

A good example of assumption is the translation of John 14:14. Highly suspect as a suggestionof prayer being rendered to Jesus.

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not ready to go over to the "dark side"

by nowwhat? in

after spending a lifetime in it, no one is as fed up with the wt as i am.

[my golf game would have been a hell of alot better if i was'nt banging my head against the wall on saturdays!

lol ] this forum has taught me alot more than i thought to confirm my suspicions.

problemaddict

Hey Now what,

The advise here has run the gammut. i am sure you can make your own decition. Here are just a few thoughts.

1) There are other groups that do not believe in the trinity, in hell fire, and in an earthly paradise f that is the only real things you have beef with mainstream Christianity not believing.

2) The "where else is there" question is false from the beginning. The scripture says Peter is speaking to jesus and says "To WHOM else shall we go..." Very different concept. Its ok. It can be a while to realize these thoughts are still contradictory. I'm still detoxing and its only been 5 months.

3) Doctrine is not truth. Doctrine is doctrine. Doctrine can be proved false, or argued with gusto. the bible teachings on fornication, divorce, and a handful of things are clear. Much of the rest is at least "up for discussion". How do you feel about 8 men in Brooklyn telling you to think like them, or not only can oyu not be a Christian, you need to be excommunicated? How do you feel about a Christian exercising their conscience in regards to blood, but possibly disfellowshipped for using it? How do you feel about enforcement of belief? How do you feel about protecting reputation over children when it comes ot pedophilia? What makes you think God needs a human group or corporation to carry out his will, since in the end he will read the heart, where the true man and woman lies?

Think about these things. If you compromise your priciples because there is nothing else better, its like settle for a $#!T sandwhich because you never considered peanut butter and jelly as things tht would go together.

Just my 2 cents.

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I finally told my parents

by nolongerconfused in

so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.

my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.

they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.

problemaddict

I am starting to believe my wifes main reason for sticking around is that her family is being held hostage from her if she were to follow me out. She doesn't want them to know either.

Its amazing to find your parents supportive in that situation. You should give them a card telling them how much you love them.

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Mind Reading and Reinstatement - Part 1

by RayPublisher in

i've published a new article on my blog about the agony that people go through in seeking reinstatement.

part one includes a personal experience of one that crawled throught this field of glass in order to be able to regain a relationship with a close friend that is asleep in the jw movement.. part two will have a transcript (and accompanying audio on my youtube channel) from a sister that recorded her entire reinstatement hearing, including what the elders said about her after she was dismissed from the room while they deliberated.. here's a peek at the article on jwstruggle:.

.. .. .. there are likely a number of you on jwnet that have "been there and back again" and gone through it.. what was the hardest thing about getting reinstated?.

problemaddict

Nice article. Thanks for writing it.

I was DF'd once when I was younger, and I was still a believer. I was commiting (lots) of fornication, and my conscience riddled me. While I am not defending JW's, I also am not defending my actions.

To be honest, the affair was very simple, they never asked details, tried to repair me spiritually, and reinstated me in like 5 months.

I realize that is an outlying situation, but that what it was. Now the poor girl that also went to the elders.......very different situation.

I honestly was very lucky to have alot of good elders around me early in life. I was insulated by the unreasonableness that I later found out abounds. Its why its pretty amazing i still came to the same conclusions as those who had been abused.

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Nancy Yuen China 1953- 23 years jail for refusing to stop door to door! Why did she do it?

by Witness 007 in

the new communist government were reasonable.

you can preach in your halls just not "door to door.

" missionary stanley jones and other non chinese stoped...but encouraged the chinese brothers to continue.

problemaddict

Nancy was a true believer. Her younger family are also true believers. o they are very happy with her sacrifice. I have met and know some of them.

Nancy made a personal decision, and it was hers to make.

She is dead now, and I try not to consider the motives of dead old ladies. She was truely a JW martyr.