Posts by Simon

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2022 - 1914 = ?

by fedup in

obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.

forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.

the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.

Simon

Making 1914 and the generation teaching go away will take some work

It really won't, the majority of JWs probably can't describe their core doctrinal beliefs when it comes to prophetic fulfillment and such crap. They will just restate things in a different way and slap the "new light" label on it.

"... and so brothers, while we know the society was right about 1914 marking the beginning of the last days Je-hoover has now revealed that Jesus began his journey on that date, clearing the universe in the following generations upto 1975 and arriving at earth in 2019. Little wonder that the world went to shit, with pestilence striking as Satan tries to test our faith through COVID ..."

They'll walk away thinking this is what they always believed. or something like it ... the specifics don't matter because they get the warm fuzzies just by being around all the brothers and sisters.

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Do JWs trust and rely on bad reviews? Why should they? How could it be coherent?

by psyco in

jws are taught that all bad reviews about them made by exjws are false and sick, so they must not read or listen to them.. so, when jws decide on joining, applying, or buying whatever product, service or organization: are they reading and listening only to good reviews about people still satisfied with that product, service, or organization because they consider false and sick all bad reviews made by people who abandoned that?

do they trust and rely on all bad reviews reported in documentaries, on internet, on tv, on magazines etc.

about people who left scientology, who left that house, who left that job position, who left that hotel, who left that restaurant, who left that medical treatment etc.?

Simon

It's not logical, they have a huge blind-spot where their normal rational reasoning abilities get suspended when it comes to the WTS.

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What have you forgotten you ever even knew?

by Simon in

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at a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.

typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.

now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...

Simon

At a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things. Typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.

I saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating. I used to know that. I used to be able to look at one and say what it was. Now all I remember is that I used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ... (right?)

But then I can still remember things that I "knew" at a much younger age and was never really of any significant interest, like the theme tune to "Champion The Wonder-horse".

Have a think - what have you forgotten you ever even knew?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

When you see it, LOL

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/garbed.html

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Q: Does anyone think an anti-McDonalds activist would have the golden arches decorating their home, in pride-of-place?

Hands up who thinks Greta has a poster of the BP or Shell logos in her bedroom?

So why does this clown appear to WORSHIP all things JW?! He's even framed leaflets?! What a fraud ...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Ooh, ooh, a new meme just dropped!

https://twitter.com/MarkJonesQuora/status/1523005009868521472

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I need help investigating this issue

by won2blv in

i would hope that most of you would agree that a major reward for jehovah's witnesses comes from positive experiences.

and who could blame them since they have such a negative message with 99.9% rejection.

who remembers the fear you felt of being a "bad witness?

Simon

Maybe you should consider getting some counselling.

I don't think anyone here can help you with any of these things.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

As far as I am aware, Dijana’s brother didn’t commit suicide, he died. My impression was that he had died in a car crash, but I actually don’t know.

I was trying to illustrate that dijana has experienced the loss of a loved one and knows that pain and is therefore vulnerable when someone threatens suicide. I apologise for any confusion

No worries, the significant part is that she lost someone close suddenly and unexpectedly. No one wants to go through that again so using it as any kind of coercive threat is low.

I am not a doctor, but I don't think Lloyd is suicidal in the slightest. I don't think he's bothered at all by how he hurts other people, if he did he wouldn't do it so frequently. I think he uses the "mental illness" card as a punchline to escape criticism and take the heat off himself.

A sociopathic narcissist doesn't seem like the type who would be wracked with guilt to ever "off" themselves. He seems as far away from having empathy for another person as I can imagine.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Nobody forced him and he said he put it out there as a full disclosure. Sounds to me that he put it in to soften the blow of a current/future sex scandal.

I'm pretty sure I remember him saying something to that effect, that he has to do it to take the wind out of some potential blackmail. Which means there is potentially something worse about him than anything in his book, which fits with the JC meeting where he was hiding something from the whole story (why he turned the camera off / didn't record it).

Anytime he admits or confesses something I am sure it's not the full complete truth. So when he said "I'm going to have to say every 2-3 months for 3-4 years" about his visiting prostitutes, it could well be every month or few weeks for 5+ years. Not really a stretch.

It's like when your doctor asks how much alcohol you drink, and you say "I'm going to have to say about 2-3 a week" when you really know it's 8-9 ... bottles, LOL.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Lloyd is an abuser. We probably don't yet know the full extent and nature of all the abuse he's committed, but it appears to be something he's well-practiced doing.

Cheating on his wife every 2-3 months for 4 years with prostitutes, and holding the threat of "I'll kill myself if you do anything about it" over her? Esp. if, as I get the impression, she maybe lost a brother or other relative that way (?)

That's just clear and terrible emotional abuse, and that's the stuff he's admitted to publicly, on video, to make money.

But the clown still thinks he's the victim in all this? Unbelievable isn't it?

If you're still one of the hold-outs giving money to this clown, you need to stop. Wake up. You're not helping anyone but an abuser. At this point, I'm judging you for being an abuse supporter.

His time as a self-professed "activist" is over. He's just another parasite people need to be warned about and protected from.