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  The Lloyd Evans Sex Scandal is our Business

  by annihilator in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82evcjfybm.

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  Simon

  Great review - good job.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Simon

  Some on this thread have strongly implied/suggested that he has had sex with minors, without any proof.

  I haven't seen that. I've seen people comment on his failure to deny that specific allegation in his video as being rather "odd", and from what I can gather it links to some previous rumour about some incident mentioned in his book (I don't know, I haven't read it and never would).

  Sex-tourism to Vietnam often evokes that connotation in people's minds. Surely that's the risk that people engaged in sex-tourism to Vietnam face? Most people, who value their reputation, don't engage in things that have strong links to such practices, not only because they value their reputation, but because it's sleazy and abhorrent and there is a lot of human trafficking that any normal decent person wouldn't want to be remotely involved with.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Sorry, I think you're trying to sell it as a "victimless crime". It isn't.

  No, I don't give a flying fuck about Lloyd or how he feels, and I won't pretend to, because he never gives a damn about anyone else.

  But I am concerned about the people he'll have hurt, many of whom won't be able to express it for fear or shame.

  He has demonstrated that he doesn't need anyone's help to start a fire, he's capable of doing that all by himself. But we shouldn't stand silent while he torches other people's lives.

  He's leaving a trail of destruction and bad feeling in his wake with everything he touches. Another group of people with tarnished reputations from dealing with him who won't want anything to do with exJW-ism, another website burnt to the ground credibility-wise. He'll just shuffle on to his next scheme and his next victims to fleece and extract work from, thinking they are contributing to support some noble cause, to save people, to care for victims of abuse for fucks sake. He has NO BUSINESS ever talking to any victim or soliciting contact with anyone who's been a victim.

  If there was any such thing as an exJW community, we would need to do a much better job at weeding out bad actors. Instead, everyone claps like brain retarded seals because someone utters the magic words "I'm against the WatchTower, I am going to criticize the Governing Body".

  And yes, we can judge him, based on his own standards. He tried to make out some old guy buying some bottles of spirits from a liquor store was somehow misappropriating funds and the crime of the century. Zero proof, but it let him waffle on in another "sensational" video expose. The idiots line up to have their biases fed and he has no concern for truth or accuracy, but neither do they.

  Just slap the "exJW" sticker on it and put it on the shelf for the next punter to buy. The only thing he got right is that the IS something wrong with the exJW community - they are not critical enough, or concerned enough about who gets to operate in their midst.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The amazing thing in all this is how the "Overton window" has been shifted.

  I remember a time when, if someone took themselves off for a luxury vacation abroad and left their wife alone at home to look after two small children, people would think such a man was a complete shit.

  Never mind the prostitutes and cheating. He's a complete asshole simply for that. What a way to treat your wife?!

  Of course even that wasn't enough for Lloyd. He has to show the world what a complete failure of a man he truly is, and how selfish, entitled and arrogant he can be. It wasn't some "moment of weakness" ... he planned it in advance and cheated on her multiple times.
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  Loyd has made a statement on Facebook

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
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  here is a copy of loyd's facebook latest comment.

  https://m.facebook.com/lloydevanscedars/posts/346085697519910.

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  Simon

  Then he adds that any sex workers he might have met were all in their 20s or older

  Yeah, who actually believes he bothered to check anyone's ID, that he even had the capability to verify their ages or didn't care because "don't they know who he is?!".

  Everyone will always have that bell ringing in the back of their heads now, "why exactly was he going specifically to Thailand".

  I think you're closer to the truth if you start with the assumption that every single thing that comes out of his mouth is a lie, designed to excuse himself from accountability and to justify his behavior. This is just more lies IMO.

  His "totally convincing" statement reminds me of this:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REpNTi-9oRQ
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I'm still amazed that is response about the 14 year old isn't to immediately outright deny it.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  "I would like to reiterate that as a professional activist I get to spend my wages as I please"

  I wonder ... does he pay Payroll taxes on those "wages" if he believes he's employed?

  Because I'm sure the relevant tax authority would be interested.

  He was content to use sex workers behind his wife’s back for years. He did not confess to her, she found out.

  Yeah, one thing is certain, he would likely be continuing to do what he has been doing if it hadn't been found out. In fact, even though it has come to light, he seems pretty adamant that he's done nothing wrong so presumably does intend to continue to spend people's donations to cheat on his wife.

  She needs to kick him out because he's putting her at risk and her kids at risk. They should lawyer up, empty the bank accounts and change the locks.
  
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  Lloyd Evans is a train wreck.

  by mickbobcat in

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  i don't know if someone has already posted this, but lloyd has put up a video talking about his hooking up with hookers.

  personally that does not bother me but the way he is handling it is such a god damn train wreck.

  this guy is insane..

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  Simon

  On a positive note as the real victim's here ( Dijana Evans and kids ) have their social media controlled by LE and finances too an idea is gathering momentum to have a Global GoFundMe for her so she can kick his sorry arse out and gain the financial independence from him.

  I'd want to know the money actually went to her, and not into his pocket.

  If he controls her social media, he's and authoritarian husband who likely controls her life entirely, including finances.

  Her in-laws need to help her to stand up, empty the bank accounts and get him out. He's put her at risk, so if he won't leave, call the police.
  
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  "A thousand years as one day"

  by Awakened07 in

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  the scripture saying: "...one day is with the lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

  " (2. peter 3:8) is often used both by jehovah's witnesses and others, to show that a day can literally mean a thousand years in the eyes of god.

  this is then used especially for the creation story, and for the fall of adam and eve.

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  Simon

  God should get himself a calendar or an Apple Watch, he won't get so confused then.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Dijana deserves better than this, and is now free to have a better mate, thank goodness. This is a hurtful thing for sure, but she is better off with someone else as a husband and father. Ick.

  Is she? I hope she has kicked him out, I can't imagine anyone not doing so. But he mentioned the in-laws being there, helping with the children. Good god, what does he have to do for them to convince their daughter she needs to put her own life and kids lives ahead of his ego?!?

  And the money may be technically his to do what he wants with it, but people mostly send money to support a cause they believe in, IMHO anyway. Why get mad at the WT for how they spend their money then?

  Even if it isn't legally wrong, which is may well be, I think it's clearly ethically and morally wrong. The people contributing did not do so to fund trips abroad to visit prostitutes. His Patreon page is lies when it's talking up the "husband and father" angle as though they are helping a decent family man working hard, far from reality.

  People who have donated should report him to Patreon and get his ass booted. Maybe then he'll get a job or lack sufficient funds to abandon his wife for a private vacation womanizing.

  I suspect the complete story is still to come out. If this is what he's admitting to, I suspect there is way worse that he hasn't talked about. But everything comes out in the end.