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  Levels of dependency both inside and outside of the JWs

  by joe134cd in

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  just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence.

  ok fair enough i guess.

  but it got me thinking.

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  If someone answers "No" to the question of "Is a pot-smoking JW really a JW ...?", then that person is committing what is called the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

  I know what you are saying, I think it's based on a fear of the example you give of someone being abusive. You don't want to let the WTS off the hook by saying "well they are not really a JW!"

  But I think those are two separate things. One is whether people truly believe and follow the teachings, trying their best to live up to it. And the other is people who happen to self-identify as being a member possibly because it provides them some cover and access to people, but who's actions show they can't possibly really believe it.

  Only the first is really a JW, but the latter is still the WT's responsibility for providing that environment and not policing it well enough.

  Obviously smoking pot is nowhere near the same severity of crime in secular terms, and like most things in the WTS, how serious of a crime it is will depend to some extent on the individuals involved and the local congregation. But I'm not sure it's something many people who genuinely feel that they are trying to be JWs will be doing.

  So I still believe that the proportion of people who smoke pot will be higher among exJWs, who know then don't want to be a JW, than those who think they do.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Yes, we all stand together, and we promote other voices who are putting out great, non-formulaic, content that's actually designed to help people, not keep them perpetually as subscribers or donators.

  The silent majority has a voice, he doesn't speak for it and never did, despite what he claimed.

  If he attacks one of us he attacks all of us and we stand shoulder to shoulder.

  OK, I have to stop now or I'll start throwing in lines from 300 or Braveheart ...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  @Simon Atlantis says you should send us a bag of Dark Chocolate Oreos for breaking the record on here for a thread. LOL

  Happy to oblige if you message me your address, but it's at #3 in the all-time-longest thread list right now ...

  ... but it doesn't look like Lloyd is going to get a dose of common sense anytime soon, so who knows where it will end up!
  
  
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  Levels of dependency both inside and outside of the JWs

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence.

  ok fair enough i guess.

  but it got me thinking.

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  Is a pot-smoking JW really a JW or someone deluding themselves / afraid to make a hard choice?

  I think the prevalence of drug taking is always going to be higher outside the group than inside it, purely because there must be some who don't partake of anything due to the religious mandates against it.

  Alcohol is the main, acceptable, mind altering drug-of-choice for JWs.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Disgusting. In the middle of all the fallout from his sex-scandal he's naming and posting pictures of his kids, then bemoaning that they will have to suffer the fallout from discovering all this in the future. He's absolutely linking them to it.

  What kind of monster does this to their own children? The kind that abandons them at Christmas to go date "new Thailand mommy" ...

  It's just an act, a PR stunt to try to make out he's a real "family man". His actions say otherwise.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Imagine trying to invoke your young child as a shield to take the heat of yourself for whoreing?

  Pitiful.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  then talks about having a relationship with a sex worker not 10mins later?

  The more he talks, the more contradictions there are. People who lie often have trouble staying consistent with their stories, but you don't normally expect them to do so in back-to-back sentences like he manages.

  I think "I dated a hooker" is pure comedy gold. Like "no, no, I wasn't just paying strangers for sex ... I was dating the hooker ... who other people payed for sex" is such a great explanation for anything.

  Lloyd is not the smartest guy in the block

  Ain't that the truth! He's clueless and this entire thing is completely of his own making. I don't mean the mess itself, which is his doing, but the publicity of it and constant pouring gasoline on the fire. His ego is so huge he thinks he knows best and can just explain everything away. But unfortunately for him, no one else is quite so dumb and gullible.

  "oooh, Mr Woyd, it me, Ting-Tong, your girl fwend!"

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Q5dSbBczE
  
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  Are You Concerned About Inflation?

  by Simon in

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  i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

  that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

  they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

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  China still has the potential Evergreen default contagion, which will inevitably show some western countries bonds are worthless.

  I read somewhere that Sri Lanka has already defaulted on their $55b debt, which again, will spread to other markets.

  In a years time there will be high food prices due to a missing season of Ukraine farming which accounts for 25-30% of the global food supply. Add that to the high energy prices.

  Something like 30% of all US dollar in existence were printed in the last couple of years

  Money is being devalued like they want to intentionally crash the economy.

  We have a chimpanzee as president, things can only get worse.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  He earns ten times the average good wage in Croatia. So I took the average good British wage £2,500 to £3000 per month and X by ten to give Brits an estimation of his standard of living.

  Then that should have been included rather than claiming it as his income.

  But it doesn't really work like that. While earnings are different in various countries in absolute terms, goods are often priced to sell in different areas. That's why everyone has TVs and refrigerators whatever country they live in ... they pay a lot less for them. Costs for housing and other things will also be lower to match.

  There are sites that will compare actual earning power in different countries, often for people emigrating. Things can often be cheaper than the direct currency conversion to account for the income differences.

  https://www.expatistan.com/price/tv/zagreb-croatia
  

  Of course if you are living in a low-cost country and earning more prime rate income remotely, then you will be on a much better standard of living which may actually make it more like earning a lot more.

  The bottom line is you probably get a more for you money in Croatia than in the UK.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  For me the income is only relevant because I feel it shows how he absolutely cannot give up his activist / YouTube job. He has no other skills, and he would have to take an infeasible income hit if he had to get a real job.

  Absolutely, he's totally compromised. He's THE person most dependent on the WTS who isn't a JW.

  Heck, he's more dependent on them than most JWs are. They can leave, but this is his life.

  The money appears to have corrupted him and if you look at most people who get sudden access to more money, it has a tendency to allow them to be who they are and live the life they really want. Voila - man whore.

  I believe it's also the driving motivator for his behavior with other activists and why he's gone after YouTube makers most, because they are taking potential eyeballs (to him, $$$) from his "hacktivism". He's systematically worked to shut people down and drive them away leaving him the "market".

  BTW: This is a good watch / commentary on his latest interview:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqcs5qgVZiA