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  Tried to warn another mum

  by DarleneGatus in

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  the thing that broke me was that i tried to warn another mum in the congregation about a brother who was inappropriate with my son, which upset me, and so i called her to talk about it since we both knew him and i had also seen him pin her daughter down on the sofa and slap the girl's bottom.

  i called it inappropriate, but i never accused him of anything beyond that.. unfortunately, word got back to him and i had to go in front of 3 elders, including the brother who i felt had been inappropriate.

  because they came down on me for trying to stop the behavior, and not on him for being the cause of upset, i felt very hurt and started questioning more things.

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  Always be willing to speak up / speak out - they rely on silence to isolate victims and continue.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Simon

  I may occasionally refer to a person as a whore if I think it's an appropriate descriptor

  We watch Outlander, and love the pronunciation with the heavy Scottish accent, hard to explain, but a mix of hoooer / haere / whoere

  If there's a 'slutty' character on TV it's usually a race for one of us to shout out "she's a hoooooeeeerrr!!!"

  There is no "noble" scenario for prostitution IMO. Either the woman is coerced and forced into it in some way which likely accounts for the majority (and "coerced" can be economically, by society or circumstances). Or she's just lazy / stupid / short-sighted / lacking self-respect and sees it as "easy money".

  It's not something any normal rational person does. It's linked to the worst aspects of humanity.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Prostitute, is a title like apostate ,designed to dehumanise the person and remove any kind of concern about the abused person behind this title

  I don't think that's entirely true. I think it's like other labels which begin as a descriptive and acceptable term but then through negative association become unacceptable and so a new term is selected. Similar to how spastic, disabled, less able-bodied etc... have been promoted and discarded.

  Eventually "sex worker" will become unacceptable, and they'll pick something else.
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  How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  this is directed to born-ins.

  around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.

  i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.

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  First clue? Feeling like an idiot and being embarrassed whenever I had to speak the beliefs out loud, even to other JWs.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I think his latest meltdown is because he's seen Kim on social media, meeting up with lots of exJWs and he's no longer part of it. He wants to be that person, that people are keen to see, and meet with. But now he isn't and never will be.

  He's perhaps jealous and bitter and is lashing out because of it to try and ruin what someone else has, any way he can.

  But we know his act now, and how he tries to drive away other exJW community members who have a voice. So it doesn't work anymore.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Simon

  This "statement," as I see it, is frankly gossip; vicious gossip. There is truth to it, as Evans verified some of it; but, If I was Evans, I would feel betrayed.

  If you are referring to Kim's statement, it wasn't gossip it was fact and she had a duty to warn others.
  

  I don't fault Evans for going to Thailand and having some fun with women and sex. He may not have felt that it was cheating, because the relationships were about sex and not love.

  But it clearly is cheating, however much you try to twist the meaning. You've given the reason for doing this, which explains what I think many of his ardent supporters believe - him doing what they do somehow "justifies" their own behavior.

  However, if he spent some of his donors money on it, then that is wrong and he needs to be held accountable for his actions.

  Right, and he refuses to see anything wrong with it. But the bigger issues is that he did this while claiming to represent people who had been abused.

  His confession, though, seemed sincere; which means, he regretted his actions, and from regret comes repentance.

  Was it a confession, or an attempt to excuse and explain away that he didn't really think he'd done anything wrong? He does not appear to regret anything beyond being caught and exposed - he actually seems to think everything is "normal" and anyone who can control their sexual urges is somehow weird and "saintly". Like many others, I think cheating on your spouse with anyone, certainly prostitutes, is very much not normal.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Given they seem to go away on breaks & holidays abroad at least 4 or 5 times a year, I find his claim to be broke as farcical. They just can't prioritize the money they do have properly.

  One thing you realize, when you watch any of the "personal finance rescue" type programmes, is that many people live way beyond their means. You might look at other people and wonder how they manage to afford to travel so much, and have that new car (or two) and maybe a boat and so on ... and the truth is, they can't!

  It's usually all debt but the days of cheap and easy debt are over now. Eventually, living beyond your means catches up with you and everything unravels. If nothing else, the debt servicing costs bleed you dry, as you pay for the privilege of the money you borrowed to pay for something long since forgotten.

  A zero bank balance tends to have negative gravity in both directions. If you get into debt, it's hard to get back to zero, but once you become a saver / investor your money just grows.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  "my work schedule"

  What work schedule ... what work?!

  "Any tips would be most appreciated".

  Get an actual job and don't be a lazy slob - learn to work a vacuum and a cleaning cloth.

  Also, how much money does he piss away on those dumb T-Shirts for his videos? Priorities!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Simon

  I just don’t see how that 3 page rant helps his cause.

  No matter, it’s not HIS money he’s using to pay lawyers. Patrons are literally funding his campaign for vengeance.

  This is on them too. There's no longer any excuse, no blind-eyes left to turn - he's clearly demonstrating what a vindictive spiteful person he is.

  People's true nature is always revealed eventually. Even to those who wilfully try not to see it.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Back in august he posted this. Now he say's Kim Silvio is to blame for his weight loss. OH COME ON!

  Yeah, I'm not a lawyer but it would be trivially easy to use his many conflicting public statements to discredit any testimony or claim he makes.

  The guy just talks too much and thinks too little.