SixofNine

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  DMCA Complaint from The WatchTower for links to KS-10 'Shepherding' book

  by Simon in

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  yes, that's right, they really do not like people being able to read that book so they wanted links to it removed (it appears they have also been going after the hosts of the content itself as well).. unfortunately, i had to removed the links (which were dead anyway when i checked) and i'd ask that people don't re-post them (sorry).

  i'm sure there are lots of alternative ways for those with the information to get it to those who need it.. here are the discussions on the book:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.

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  SixofNine

  they technically are in the right for enforcing their rights.

  I don't think that has been established. First of all, most of what goes on in the exJW world, and especially here on JWN, definitely falls under "fair use", as it is very serious criticism (and often parody) of the WT society. I'm thinking especially of Quotes case - this was not established law, this was just them bullying him because they have far more money than he does. His site was perfectly legitimate (under US law, anyway).

  Laws have purpose, and copyright law was not established to protect secretive organizations. Of course they are going to try to use the law to their advantage, but that doesn't mean they are "in the right".

  But also, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this idea of linking to a site that host the "Flock" book is much like WikiLeaks - and I don't think even the extremely powerful forces that are trying to shut them down are doing so by claiming copyright infringement, are they?
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  Why It Matters...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  well, the predecessor thread really invoked some emotions, didn't it?

  good and bad.

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  SixofNine

  Oh, and Lady Lee, if I may direct your attention to the post above by AGuest:

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  State your name, spirit. By what are you called?

  Slave of the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH,

  SA

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  That's what you're dealing with. Come on. Talk it over with Simon, and do the right thing.
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  Why It Matters...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  well, the predecessor thread really invoked some emotions, didn't it?

  good and bad.

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  SixofNine

  And, if she is permitted to post as if God speaks through her, then NVL should be able to do the same, parody or not.

  Exactly.
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  Why It Matters...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  well, the predecessor thread really invoked some emotions, didn't it?

  good and bad.

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  SixofNine

  Specifically, she should not be allowed to post as if God is speaking thru her.
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  Why It Matters...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  well, the predecessor thread really invoked some emotions, didn't it?

  good and bad.

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  SixofNine

  Aren't we all adults on here?

  Yes. Just like Pastor Russell's first victims were adults. My father was an adult when he joined the Jehovah's Witnesses. The lady in my home town who cut her baby's arms off because God spoke to her was an adult too. The people who now think they hear the same voice that Shelby hears are adults too.

  Serious mental illness should be treated seriously. The fact that some of you are uncomfortable acknowledging a mentally ill person's illness directly to them is not an excuse to pretend it's all within the realm of normal healthy discussion board life.
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  Why It Matters...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  well, the predecessor thread really invoked some emotions, didn't it?

  good and bad.

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  SixofNine

  whether Shelby or anyone else here has some menatal health issues is no reason to make fun of them.

  Very true. It is however reason for a forum's administration to take responsible action. Also, just because a person has narcissistic or hallucinatory mental health issues does not mean they are not clever, smart, charming, etc. How do you think a person could get into a position where they could convince other people that the voices they hear are indeed Jaheshua Misha(sp?)? They would need a certain way with words, and a publishing forum.

  Shelby has been using Jesus to bully people on this forum for years now. You shouldn't have let her. The very FIRST time she said "the Lord instructed me to tell you..." the administration of any forum, but especially an exJW forum should have said "No, sorry, but we've all suffered enough from people who take on the authority of God; you'll have to just post as yourself with your own opinions, or move along".
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  Why It Matters...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  well, the predecessor thread really invoked some emotions, didn't it?

  good and bad.

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  SixofNine

  Lady Lee, if you don't like what is going on, then ask Shelby to post only as Shelby, or leave the forum.

  For years now, Shelby has used JWD as her personal voodoo playground. She is of course the unfortunate intersection of Narcissistic Personality Disorder and auditory hallucinations, and that is sad for her, but no excuse for her to be allowed to pointedly NOT get help and instead harm herself and others by having a willing audience who encourage her delusions of grandeur.

  And now it's obvious that she IS influencing several others. This needs to be handled responsibly. Telling other people they can't reject or respond in kind to Shelby's prophecies of doom is certainly NOT the responsible adult way to deal with this.

  This is a mental health issue and the forum administration should be dealing with it as such. And should have been for the last several years.
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  Should/Can I turn them in?

  by AwSnap in

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  what are my options?

  i have recently found out that someone close to me is receiving medicaid and in the process of getting food stamps.

  this is so unfair and annoying.

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  SixofNine

  is the would-be male stripper drawing unemployment? working occasionally?
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  Should/Can I turn them in?

  by AwSnap in

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  what are my options?

  i have recently found out that someone close to me is receiving medicaid and in the process of getting food stamps.

  this is so unfair and annoying.

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  SixofNine

  No-one is going to do any such thing.

  gaaahh! damn you! :shakes fist: foiled! I was :this: close to getting her to admit she's a horrible person.
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  Should/Can I turn them in?

  by AwSnap in

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  what are my options?

  i have recently found out that someone close to me is receiving medicaid and in the process of getting food stamps.

  this is so unfair and annoying.

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  SixofNine

  just admit it, you're a horrible person.